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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (155848)	4/16/2003 1:02:49 PM
From: Wizard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

Lizzie, the oil pipeline is illegal. They were doing it behind the worlds back. In order to stay in power, you have to obey international law.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (155848)	4/16/2003 1:06:40 PM
From: Bill Harmond	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>>You think...the US has a right to destroy the infrastructure and government of any country it chooses How do you come up with that? That boils down to "might makes right." I don't think anyone here espouses that.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (155848)	4/16/2003 1:52:01 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 164684

Lizzie, you really do refuse to get a clue, don't you? Did you actually read Friedman's column or just the two paragraphs wizard posted? NO ONE - not Bush, not Rumsfeld, not Friedman, not anyone here - is saying the US should confront Syria militarily. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak up loudly when Syria facilitates the flow of Jihadists into Iraq, when they shelter terrorists or Iraqi fascist murderers, or when they deliberately violate UN sanctions by secretly buying Iraqi oil from Saddam outside of UN auspices and secretly shipping it through the pipeline we shut down. Yes, Lizzie, you got your "facts" wrong again. Syria, a member of the UN Security Council claiming authority over US military action in the name of international law, ingores the Security Council and directly violates sanctions against Saddam Hussein's regime buy illegally buying oil from him. We didn't "turn off Syria's oil." We shut down a pipeline (which was not currently in use, BTW) through which Syria was buying stolen goods from a thief and murderer. It appears, BTW, from the article Bill posted that Syria gets the message. North Korea seems to be getting it too. None of GST's dire predictions, which you have so lazily adopted, are coming true. The WSJ editorial Bill posted a little while ago describes very well the views and people you seem to be listening to (including GST) - you should try some new ideas once in a while. Tom Friedman and the WSJ are good places to start.