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To: aladin who wrote (93935)	4/16/2003 4:20:29 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

>>What makes you think the museum had all the stuff inside some say they do?<< There are local Iraqis (employees) who are still alive, and who were present when looting happening, and they said everything was there before the US invasion. And I am sure they can proof it. It will be another matter whether you believe it. Some people only believe the things they want to believe. >>Weren't the British there during and after WW1? There is some pretty good stuff in London :-)<< British, as well as a bunch of imperialists in 19th century, wanted to colonize China even since early 19 century, although they have never succeeded. Don't you know anything about Opium War in 1840? do a search using google, you will know more. >>but what would your reaction have been to Marines shooting looters?<< I would applaude for the US marines because they would have done the mankind a big favor, and most of Iraqi people would applaude too.

To: aladin who wrote (93935)	4/16/2003 4:20:55 PM
From: Condor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Looters plunder in minutes Iraq's millennia-old legacy By Mary Wiltenburg and Philip Smucker Christian Science Moitor BOSTON AND BAGHDAD snippets....... Iraq has been called one giant historic site, and for 80 years its national Museum has been the repository of irreplaceable records and collections of ancient art and artifacts from the country's Babylonian, Assyrian, and Mesopotamian past. The ransacking has caused incalculable loss to Iraq's, and the world's, cultural heritage, experts say. "If Iraq has anything besides oil, any meaning for humanity, it is in this history," says Paul Zimansky, professor of Near Eastern archaeology at Boston University. Sunday, with the threat of more vandalism, US forces still had not arrived to secure the museum. "It reflects badly on us as Americans," says Dr. Zimansky. "We've behaved like absolute barbarians. OK, you can blame a mob, but they looted because law and order was broken down, and we broke it down. Then we stood by and watched." csmonitor.com

To: aladin who wrote (93935)	4/16/2003 5:22:18 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Re the Iraq Museum: Saddam moves valuables out of Baghdad. 10-20/2002..I posted this on FADG October 20, 2002!!! UNFORTUNATELY, this is a perfect example of why the entire article should be posted....It is no longer available, without cost, from the StraitsTimes.... Message 18135665 To:LindyBill who wrote (53416) From: KLP Sunday, Oct 20, 2002 3:57 PM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93968 Here goes his loot stolen from his citizens:Saddam moves valuables out of Baghdad: Report OCT 20, 2002 straitstimes.asia1.com.sg BERLIN -- In anticipation of a US strike on Iraq, President Saddam Hussein has begun removing gold bars and valuable works of art from Baghdad to the remote north-western town of Abu Kamul near the border with Syria, a German newspaper reported on Sunday. Several trucks laden with gold bars and artworks from museums in Baghdad and the northern city of Mosul travelled under heavy guard to Abu Kamul, where they were met by Syrian and Jordanian businessmen, the Sunday newspaper Welt am Sonntag cited Iraqi opposition and Western intelligence sources as saying. European diplomats in Damascus confirmed 'the traffic of heavy trucks between Syria and Iraq has increased sharply in the past few weeks -- in both directions,' the newspaper added. -- AFP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright @ 2002 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.