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To: American Spirit who wrote (395385)	4/20/2003 3:09:59 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

here is some of your Kerry EU buddies: OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM German spies aided Saddam? Documents seized in Baghdad point to ties with Iraq's intelligence service -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: April 20, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com Documents recovered from the bombed Iraqi intelligence headquarters in Baghdad reveal Germany's intelligence services attempted to build closer ties to Saddam's secret service during the build-up to war last year, according to a report in the London Telegraph. The documents point to a meeting on January 29, 2002 between an agent named as Johannes William Hoffner and Lt. Gen. Taher Jalil Haboosh, the director of Iraq's intelligence service. Haboosh indicates the Iraqis are anxious to cultivate a relationship with Germany's intelligence agency ''under diplomatic cover," and offers to give lucrative contracts to German companies if Berlin helps prevent an American invasion of Iraq. He also urges Hoffner to lobby the German government to raise its diplomatic mission in Baghdad to full ambassadorial level, according to the Telegraph. ''When the American conspiracy is finished, we will make a calculation for each state that helps Iraq in its crisis,'' Haboosh says. He indicates he hoped to forge the relationship through Hoffner, who replies: ''My organization wants to develop its relationship with your organization.'' Haboosh also tells the German agent Iraq has ''big problems'' with Britain and the United States. ''We have problems with Britain because it occupied Iraq for 60 years and with America because of its aggression for 11 years,'' he says. The meeting between the Iraqi and German agents took place some six months before Chancellor Schroeder's government began its policy of direct opposition to the idea of a U.S.-led war against Iraq. Schroeder was re-elected last September, largely because of the popularity of his government's outspoken opposition to the war. The revelations about Iraq's ties to German intelligence come a week after The Telegraph reported Russia had spied for the Iraqis, passing them intelligence about a meeting between Tony Blair and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister. Both the British and Italian governments have launched investigations.

To: American Spirit who wrote (395385)	4/21/2003 11:32:57 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769667

<<So now we've won. The wars are over. Let's move on. Who cares about the friggin' Arabs anymore anyway? They've learned their lessons, more or less.>> Spoken like the Japanese after Pearl Harbor...

To: American Spirit who wrote (395385)	4/21/2003 12:00:54 PM
From: username	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Who cares about the friggin' Arabs anymore anyway? Before the war, you were rabid about it being wrong and bad. When it started, you "supported the troops". I imagine that if you were pro-life (today), you could still support the doctors that do the abortions, and since you are anti-oil drilling (unless you changed your mind in the last few days), you can still support the guys that drill the holes. This all makes total sense to you, right? Now the Iraq campaign is winding down and you've been behind it all the way! Go USA! "Any" president would have done the same thing! The transition to an independent government in Iraq was going to fail miserably two weeks ago, but now it's a "mop up", and your plan for the future is for the United States to "make peace in Israel" (forgive me for laughing at the irony of your generalization), "get the hell out of there", get "off Arab oil", (possibly a sensible long-term goal but your plan appears to lack some specificity) and now "we" need "our" money to "fix problems at home", (whose money are "we" talking about, exactly?) "Our" money should not include "major tax breaks" for the rich because that will keep "us" mired (excellent economic analysis indeed!). "WE?" "US?" You, not me. I actually care about the people in Iraq, believe it or not. I do, however, applaud your post, it is the single most insane combination of fallacies, generalities, media buzz words, and nonsensical prattle I've ever seen you produce. The only thing you left out is "Kerry will fix it all, I guarantee it." If Kerry knew you supported him publicly, he would RUN AWAY from you, you realize that, right?