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To: tejek who wrote (168339)	4/23/2003 2:24:43 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576648

just for you ted, program your vcr. drudgereport.com Damage control! Steve

To: tejek who wrote (168339)	4/23/2003 3:19:13 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576648

These are conspiracy theories. So is the theory that Bush is planning to eliminate our freedom and democracy. It is an even more extreme one then the other theories. I have not stretched things at all. The Foster claim got a lot of attention, and a few wackos have also made the claim about Ron Brown. Hartmann's article is not based on a conspiracy theory. Instead, he is pointing out what he considers to be similarities between Hitler and Bush. If he believes our Democracy is in danger then he believes in a conspiracy theory. The tone of his article and even your stated opinion about it would both seem to indicate that Hartmann believes that Bush is moving against democracy in the US. Let me tell you, if you are black or gay in this country you have good reason to fear the current party in power and question their loyalties to the democratic processes. No, you don't. In the past six months, some of the very top Reps. have made remarks that very easily can be construed as bigoted and suggest they do not see all people as equal. "Can easily be construed as bigoted", is not the same thing as "bigoted". And even if they where bigoted that is not the same as disloyal to the democratic process. Also its not only Republicans. In the past six months, we fought a pre emptive war and openly toppled a gov't.........a first for this country. No, not a first. In the past year, we have seen several attempts [some successful] by this administration to curtail individual freedoms in the name of fighting terrorism. A reasonable argument can be made that in its attempt to protect us from terrorism the administration has gone a bit to far. I might support that argument myself. That isn't the same as saying the government has subverted democracy, let alone to imply that it is trying to set itself up as a dictatorship, or that the current administration is like that of Hitler. It can be argued that the administration has manipulated the fear caused by the 9/11 terrorist attack to its advantage. Lots of things can be argued. Do you support that argument? So I do not see Hartmann's concerns as so many conspiracy theories or the rantings of a mad man. Pointing out problems with or excesses of the Bush administration is normal and reasonable. Saying Bush is like Hitler is either the ranting of a mad man or an ignorant man or a liar. Tim