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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (96283)	4/25/2003 6:19:01 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Basically, just a few people, those at the highest level of the Administration, the ones who made public statements in the run-up to the war saying they knew Iraq had WMD. Won't wash, Jacob. You would need the Intel analysts at CIA, DOD, and others to back it up. Someone would have talked. I know you will push this line of reasoning. Expect to only convince "Conspiracy Buffs," like yourself.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (96283)	4/25/2003 6:39:03 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

do u have evidence that Iraq does NOT have WMD ? If so, u should present it to the administration - ranting on SI is a waste of time in that regard. If u do NOT have the evidence, I suggest you and I and others let the competent people do their work and report on the findings.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (96283)	4/25/2003 6:49:48 PM
From: slacker711	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Smaller than the conspiracy needed for Watergate. I think you will have to include Blix in the conspiracy. He had numerous opportunities to declare that Iraq was in compliance with Resolution 1441. Instead he noted that Iraq had failed to disclose the whereabouts of various WMD. They may have been destroyed in '99 (or in '02), but Iraq never gave proof of this. If you now believe that Iraq did not have WMD, can you explain why they wouldnt try to comply with 1441? From Blix's testimony on Feb. 14th... abcnews.go.com Another matter, and one of great significance, is that many proscribed weapons and items are not accounted for. To take an example, a document which Iraq provided suggested to us that some 1,000 tons of chemical agent were unaccounted for. I must not jump to the conclusion that they exist; however, that possibility is also not excluded. If they exist, they should be presented for destruction. If they do not exist, credible evidence to that effect should be presented. We are fully aware that many governmental intelligence organizations are convinced and assert that proscribed weapons, items and programs continue to exist. The U.S. secretary of state presented material in support of this conclusion. Governments have many sources of information that are not available to inspectors. The inspectors, for their part, must base their reports only on the evidence which they can themselves examine and present publicly. Without evidence, confidence cannot arise. Mr. President, in my earlier briefings, I have noted that significant outstanding issues of substance were listed in two Security Council documents from early 1999 and should be well known to Iraq. I referred, as examples, to the issues of anthrax, the nerve agent VX, and long-range missiles, and said that such issues — and I quote myself — "deserve to be taken seriously by Iraq rather than being brushed aside," unquote. The declaration submitted by Iraq on the 7th of December last year, despite its large volume, missed the opportunity to provide the fresh material and evidence needed to respond to the open questions.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (96283)	4/25/2003 7:13:43 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Prior to invading Iraq, the Administration rhetoric, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, to a man and woman, included a statement that the intelligence agencies of all major nations reported that Iraq had WMD. This has never been denied. To date, not one world leader, not Putin, not Chirac, not Schroeder, not even Cretien, has taken the position that Iraq did not have WMD. So you're kinda out on a limb there, big fella. You're out there in the same company as Galloway and Scott Ritter. Enjoy it while it lasts.