To: Jamey who wrote (35142 ) 4/30/2003 11:14:45 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621 The serpent said, Ye shall not surely die? You follow the plan of your father, using subtle, cunning attempts to create doubt. ....whomever the superstitious goatherders that wrote that inspired crap , owe all the innocent snakes and serpents in the world an apology ! Serpents on the contrary , are an elegant part of the ecological food chain and are part of the balance many bio-systems and help keep rodent populations in check etc etc. ;) The truely most dangerous , subtle , cunning , religiously fanatical, ignorant and destructive creature in the valley is ? It is "We" humans , that do all the damage . Especially when you have these ancient outdated scriptures relating to ancient grandiose primitive fictions that justify it all. And Jesus offered no solutions and certainly didn't do much in the way of teaching the wisdom of the family , sexuality , women or the home ....which is the most lethal and dangerous place to be in our society. Jesus was not usually someone you would want to invite into your home ...lest you be condemned to hell . He never married , fathered children , eschewed his own mother , and spoke of driving wedges between mother and daughter and father and son. And you really worship this fellow? Was Jesus really peaceful? Was he really compassionate ? Was he really that wise ?Message 18896624 At the heart of this God of Abraham , his prophets and their teachings and their demands for your blind obedience & loyalty is the promise of reward in heaven . This is the highest form of hypocrisy and weakness , and far too obvious a ploy to the mind that wishes to question little and rather believe in fairy tales.