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To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (70136)	4/30/2003 12:41:32 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

I don't know whether there was even a possibility of bringing a counter-offer to the table or if it was a "take it or leave it" thing. The points of rejection were obvious enough. If the Israeli side would not bulge on any of them, then they have already rejected a possible counter-offer, right? I certainly accept that it was unacceptable to the Pals. It was unacceptable to many Israelis. Yet, it was, by far, the best offer, to date And hence, should be accepted? And its rejection means Palestinians are only interested in destroying Israel? Not sure about that... There was an improved offer made at Taba after this "Barak Offer" Could you shortly explain what the improvements were? I am not that familiar with the Taba version.

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (70136)	4/30/2003 1:02:54 PM
From: runes	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 70976

<<In any case, please explain why these offers were not met with counter offers and were met with suicide terrorism. >> Please don't forget that the first bloodshed in this second Intifada was the small boy who was machine-gunned while his father vainly tried to protect him. ...And that led to retaliation which led to retaliation...and son on until the situation escalated to a return of suicide bombing. The tragic truth of the matter is that there were no suicide bombings in retaliation for the failure of the talks - because the radical elements were happy that the talks had failed. However, if the talks had succeeded then the suicide bombing would have started in an effort to destroy the peace plan. And that is the greatest obstacle to peace - the minority who refuse to accept co-existance at any cost. And don't forget that there is also an Israeli contingent in that minority.