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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zonder who wrote (16558)	5/2/2003 8:20:06 AM
From: Vitas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

Tell yourself that if it is ok for you that your beloved France acted in its own interests: "As with all international issues, countries took sides on this one as well on the basis of (1) Benefits to their own citizens, and (2) What they think is 'right'." Message 18902722 then it is ok for you that the coalition acted similarly. -lol- Are you ever going to get one right? I'm still waiting for your link showing that the U.N. Security Council enacted a resolution proscribing the Iraq war. -lol- How's your "opinion" doing today? -lol-

To: zonder who wrote (16558)	5/2/2003 8:26:22 AM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 21614

<< "Somebody tell Vitas that UN did not support US invasion of Iraq." Most zonder types cannot understand that the many dictators in the UN don't want one of their fellow dictators overthrown, hence they were against getting rid of Saddam. In the UN, besides brutal dictators, there are many incompetent, corrupt leaders represented. The UN Human Rights Commission, for instance, has included China, Cuba, Algeria, Syria, Libya, Pakistan and Vietnam. Why do you love these countries that oppress, torture and keep their people in misery? Because you have it relatively good, you don't care if most of the world lives in misery? The UN is a morally corrupt and incompetent entity, similar to yourself. The question should not be whether the worthless UN supports America, it should be, why should America support the UN?

To: zonder who wrote (16558)	5/2/2003 8:45:27 AM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

MYTH : "One million Palestinians were expelled by Israel from 1947-49." FACT : "The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-49 for a variety of reasons. Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands more responded to Arab leaders' calls to get out of the way of the advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle. Many Arabs claim that 800,000 to 1,000,000 Palestinians became refugees in 1947-49. The last census was taken by the British in 1945. It found approximately 1.2 million permanent Arab residents in all of Palestine. A 1949 Government of Israel census counted 160,000 Arabs living in the country after the war. In 1947, a total of 809,100 Arabs lived in the same area.1 This meant no more than 650,000 Palestinian Arabs could have become refugees. A report by the UN Mediator on Palestine arrived at an even lower figure — 472,000, and calculated that only about 360,000 Arab refugees required aid.2 Although much is heard about the plight of the Palestinian refugees, little is said about the Jews who fled from Arab states. Their situation had long been precarious. During the 1947 UN debates, Arab leaders threatened them. For example, Egypt's delegate told the General Assembly: "The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries would be jeopardized by partition."3 The number of Jews fleeing Arab countries for Israel in the years following Israel's independence was nearly double the number of Arabs leaving Palestine. Many Jews were allowed to take little more than the shirts on their backs. These refugees had no desire to be repatriated. Little is heard about them because they did not remain refugees for long. Of the 820,000 Jewish refugees between 1948 and 1972, 586,000 were resettled in Israel at great expense, and without any offer of compensation from the Arab governments who confiscated their possessions.3a Israel has consequently maintained that any agreement to compensate the Palestinian refugees must also include Arab compensation for Jewish refugees. To this day, the Arab states have refused to pay any compensation to the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were forced to abandon their property before fleeing those countries. The contrast between the reception of Jewish and Palestinian refugees is even starker when one considers the difference in cultural and geographic dislocation experienced by the two groups. Most Jewish refugees traveled hundreds — and some traveled thousands — of miles to a tiny country whose inhabitants spoke a different language. Most Arab refugees never left Palestine at all; they traveled a few miles to the other side of the truce line, remaining inside the vast Arab nation that they were part of linguistically, culturally and ethnically." us-israel.org