To: Mark Konrad who wrote (403493 ) 5/7/2003 10:30:53 AM From: CYBERKEN Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 <<Furthermore, I strongly disagree with your assertion that "everyone" sees the Left as "simply anti-humanity, anti-democracy, and anti-American.">> You are simply, and very obviously, wrong. You're passion to over-complicate the issue of the left, once universally fashionable, has become obsolete. The left no longer even PRETENDS to be patriotic. The combination of the corrupting influence of Clinton, and their loss of power that resulted from that era, has not changed them from what they always were, BUT HAS FLUSHED THEM OUT. They have always been PURE Leninists-using America's democracy and its ideals as a rhetorical weapon against it whenever possible. Their wholesale acceptance of the Clinton corruption and lies was a massive strategic error on their part-and spurred them to the pure treason, racism, and class hatred which is, and always has been, their natural state. The realization of that error has burned off their pseudo veneer as a "loyal opposition", and exposed them in their true light as the domestic enemy to that minority of "independents" who are actually able to think (and who tend to swing most elections). It is no longer necessary for pro-Americans to deceive themselves with distracting and subtle "analysis" of the "positions" of the left, and their "relative merits" (ala Bob Dole and other "moderate" useful idiots.) The Marxist/Leninist anti-American left-since their massive vote-fraud failure in 2000 and their record of pure treason since 91101-has come out of their camouflage and into the sunlight to stand AGAINST America and squarely with whomever, on any given day, would destroy us. Thus we either defeat and PURGE them, or we decline into oblivion. It's THAT simple...