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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (68)5/7/2003 9:36:34 PM
From: Volsi Mimir  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 520
 
So if believe in relativity of time or in the atomic structure those exist only inside my head and have no reality beyond that?

Absolutely. We perceive that world and it works for us who understand those concepts. We use our senses to enable those thoughts into action and communicate with common terms to comprehend it and within each mind some more or some less semblance becomes of it. They have meaning. Even those who cannot understand those concepts yet function within that social structure will or can accede to it.
Autochthonal Australia never believed in time, only in now, the dreamtime. Are they wrong? Their social structure didn't need it till Western culture interposed.

How about if Einstein is wrong? Would you be wrong?
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The day João Magueijo began to doubt Albert Einstein started inauspiciously. It was a rainy winter morning in 1995 at Cambridge University, where Magueijo was a research fellow in theoretical physics. He was tramping across a sodden soccer field, suffering from a hangover and mumbling to himself, when out of the gray a heretical idea brought him to a full stop: What if Einstein was wrong? What if, rather than being forever constant, the speed of light could change? Magueijo stood there in the downpour. What would that mean?
Until this strange notion intruded, Magueijo had been mulling over the most fateful moment in the history of the cosmos, an inconceivably brief instant between 10-37 and 10-34 second after the Big Bang. During that tiny interlude, most theorists agree, the universe exploded a second time, doubling in size over and over until a cosmos far smaller than a single proton grew to the size of a grapefruit. It has been expanding ever since, albeit at a more leisurely pace. Inflation, as that primordial growth spurt is called, has dominated cosmological theory for the past 20 years because it explains why the universe looks the way it does today.

According to Magueijo's calculations, the speed of light near a cosmic string would increase dramatically: A spaceship traveling on one of these fast tracks could go well above the standard speed of light—186,282 miles per second—while still traveling at a fraction of the accelerated light-speed limit around the cosmic string. The laws of special relativity would still hold—time would slow down for the travelers. But because they would be traveling at a fraction of the cosmic string's light-speed limit, the effect would be minimized; astronauts could travel to the stars and return to Earth to find that months, not centuries, had passed.

I was not talking about humans, let alone those who had a culture and a belief system. I was talking about precursors to humans. We are going so far back in time, that any "culture" must be seen as a genetic predisposition towards that culture

Do you mean social settings like a tribe or a band mainly for mutual protection and existence, usually with a patriarch in charge of a harem, with outcasts and separation common like many other wild kingdom animals trying to survive. More than genetic I believe they are the ones that survived because of gathering together than alone.
Also there is learning and nurturing within the womb of the mother, so these can be passed on without genetics. I can understand development of distinguishing pure tone as a genetic quality, not social behavior except to the mother.
Why pure tone you ask? (glad you asked)
I had this book for twenty years......... The Myths of Invariance by Ernest G McClain ---
He suggests that the Rg Veda and the science of Plato and some of the Bible were just conclusions and abstracts of music and music notations.......that 729 used by Plato had a specific meaning, that the choir of 144,000 in Revelations was music with specific notes, that the epics of in Babylon and Sumer might just be musical scales and these all turned into beliefs.......
Why pure tone? Maybe those that thought up the stuff had it and were capable of discerning them than us mere tone deaf mortals.......

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Perfect pitch genetic, not learned
By Frank D. Roylance
The Baltimore Sun
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Studies suggest that as few as one person in 10,000 has perfect pitch, perhaps one in 10 in the best music schools. Those who have it liken it to recognizing colors. When most people see blue, they recognize it immediately as blue. When people with perfect pitch hear a note, it automatically gets a label. It doesn't require any thought, they say.

Although sometimes the envy of their relative-pitch peers, people with perfect pitch say it's not always an advantage.

"I've known some wonderful musicians who do not have perfect pitch, and some horrible musicians who do have it," said Clinton Adams, who teaches at the Peabody Conservatory of Music in Baltimore.

"We're fortunate to have it, but sometimes I wish I didn't. I think it's actually harder," said Chris Kovalchick, 19, of Princeton, N.J., a perfect-pitch violin student in Adams' class. When an ensemble tuned to a slightly sharped (too-high) A, he said, "I felt like I was playing everything out of tune."

Performers with perfect pitch say being even a quarter-tone off key can stump them in figuring out the right notes to play, as if they're trying to read a sentence in which every letter has been replaced by the next one in the alphabet.

Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven and Rimsky-Korsakov are just a few of the composers who had perfect pitch. Studies show it tends to run in families, suggesting a genetic component.