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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: LPS5 who wrote (575)	5/8/2003 10:35:09 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 20039

Good post. Most of us know how bloated and inefficient government can be. It takes something like 9/11 to at least tip the odds more in favor of people and less to government largesse. Most of us realize this. However, to take it to an extreme like the fringe nuts do and claim that the US did 9/11 to get control of oil or a desert country or even that it is some sort of Jewish conspiracy is just totally bizarre and more likely the manifestation of some paranoid delusion.

To: LPS5 who wrote (575)	5/9/2003 9:45:08 AM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 20039

LPS5, Normally, I would also accept the incompetence theory, but I am troubled by the apparent eagerness of the administration for us to adopt this view. The preponderence of odd happenings on 9-11 also cannot be neatly dismissed by incompetence: Israeli companies; Amdocs, Odigo, and Comverse Infosys, have access to, and control over, virtually every phone conversation and wiretap in the United States. At least 7 of the "Arabs" identified as the 9/11 suicide attackers are alive and well, and were the victims of identity theft. On September 10, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns. Israeli owned Odigo, with offices near the WTC, confirmed two employees received text messages warning of the attacks two hours in advance. One week before 9-11, Zim Navigational, an Israeli government run company, moved its 200 employees out of their World Trade Center offices. The hijackers boarded planes at airports where security is controlled by Huntleigh USA. Huntleigh USA was acquired by ICTS International in 1999, and is controlled by two Israelis; Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon. The attacks started at 8:45, no Air Force fighter jets scrambled until 10:00. The debris field from flight 93 shows the plane was falling apart while at cruising altitude. A person on the plane reports hearing explosions in a cell phone conversation several minutes before the crash. Buildings, designed to be crash proof, crumble in controlled demolitions where rings of explosive charges are clearly visible in video records of the disaster. On 9/11, Bush is filmed reading stories to children. He doesn't blink an eye when notified America is being attacked. His response to a national emergency is to continue reading. 5 Israeli Mossad agents dance for joy while filming the disaster, but are released and sent home with our blessings. Bush starts taking anthrax medications the next day. Weaponized Anthrax from Fort Detrick shows up in the mail a few weeks later, along with letters intended to implicate Arab nations. Bush’s "Patriot Act" allows the round up and incarceration of witnesses to be implemented without legal representation or subsequent media leaks. Steel from the WTC was recycled before any experts could conduct investigations into the cause of the collapse. IE. Did the steel melt or was it cut with demolition charges? No investigation was allowed. Over 200 Israelis were deported in the following months in relation to terrorist and Mossad activities. And finally, a year and a half after the biggest disaster since Pearl Harbor, the Bush administration still doesn't want an investigation and refuses to release any information. How do you explain these unusual happenings?

To: LPS5 who wrote (575)	8/23/2003 5:57:29 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

You want me to do all your work for you. I wrote this and the facts there stand on their own. An example....the fires in the twin towers could not have been more that 2000 degrees in temp given the fuel available to burn (jet fuel and building) yet it would take 4,000 degrees to melt the steel (steel is made in special furnaces designed to get that unusually high temperature) and cause the building to collapse at all (much less collapse in such a way that it looked like an expert demolition job, straight down). The top of the building should have folded over on the weaker side if the steel had really melted as claimed, yet it went straight down. There are a few physics facts that you can research and find that it is true. Will you? Or will you just make another nonsense post? You spend all your time deflecting what I say and making demands for the elusive proof. The government buried the truth. To hide it. Your motives and intelligence are questionable. There was no investigation into the reasons for the collapse of the towers. Look at how thoroughly a plane crash is investigated. Every possible angle is explored and it can take a year. The entire plane is reconstructed from debris. And they want the answers. But the investigation into the actual metal structural support of the buildings was secreted away and buried without examination. Then they said later for the public that the steel melted causing the collapse. Nevermind that it's not possible. That can be easily verified by you with a little research of your own, but you are too lazy. You want me to do it. Then you will sarcastically try and poke holes in that. You are a waste of time. Deliberately blocking examination of the steel in a billion+ dollar disaster is unbelievable. it is beyond comprehension that they would not want to find out every detail. They are hiding the steel (just as they did with the Oklahoma City Federal Building) so that the evidence of the cutting charges are not ever found. I told you and everyone to buy this tape and watch it. The evidence presented is so strong it cannot be denied. But you won't. The Oklahoma City bombing was not done by a single truck bomb in front of the building. Experts show that that was impossible, even as the government secreted the building away unexamined. And their were 4 bombs inside the building and it was military C-4. Not fertilizer. And it goes on and on, the evidence. amazon.com I've also posted another video that shows beyond any doubt that the FBI gunned down the Branch Dividians as they tried to flee the fire. There was testimony by the coroner that examined the dead charred bodies that said they were shot. The fbi story is they shot each other but that's not true. The FBI was caught red handed by a new technology that saw from the air the gunfire in the entire compound as the fire progressed and where the gunfire came from. ALL the gunfire in the compound came from FBI positions outside the buildings and went into the buildings. There was some talk at the time about a private plane circling the compound. Nobody knew anything about it. The plane was hired privately and was watching the compound with new very sensitive technology that could see everything as it happened. The FBI is exposed murdering those people. But you don't want to know. You don't want your fragile little make believe world to be upset. I've met many people like you. You are the antithesis of this saying "The prices of freedom is eternal vigilance". You are a gullible lazy American. You and your ilk. But someone else might want to see the videos. So here's the link. amazon.com