To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (97631 ) 5/8/2003 4:43:59 PM From: Jacob Snyder Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 That's not the equivalence I was pointing out. Again: can you point out any difference in methods, between the terrorists the U.S. supports (like the Mujahedeen Khalq or Afghan warlords), and the terrorists the U.S. opposes (like Hamas or Al Queda)? When Israeli helicopter gunships target a car on a Gaza street, because they think a Hamas leader is riding in it, they also kill whoever else is in the car, and whoever happens to be walking along the street at that moment. They are fighting a war, and they use tactics like this, tactics that kill civilians, kill them regularly and deliberately. Yes, I see a moral equivalence, between this and Hamas suicide bombers in nightclubs. Both sides regularly kill civilians, and deliberately target the civilian populations that support the opposing army. Any Israeli male in that nightclub, has done military service. The entire male population of Israel is on active duty or reserves. From a moral or military point of view, what is the difference between killing an Israeli soldier manning a checkpoint, and killing him when he is off-duty the next day at a nightclub? None. If it's easier to kill him at the nightclub, if that's a "softer" target, then that's where the attack will happen. You cannot see this moral equivalence, because you are reflexively defensive, assume from the beginning a moral superiority, and have demonized your opponents. I've read histories, describing what the American settlers thought of the Indians, and what the conquistadores thought of the Incas and Aztecs, and what the Crusaders thought of the Moslems (and, often, of the Jews and Orthodox Christians as well). The way you think about the Palestinians, is exactly the same. But, the problem for Israel is, the Age of Colonialism is over. If the Jews had started their project a century earlier, it might have worked. Try a 19th Century colonization in the 21st Century, and the result is endless war.