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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Don Earl who wrote (589)5/9/2003 2:45:14 PM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
With all due respect, the point that was made was that in prior hijackings, suicide was not a tactic. One has to make decisions on the basis of facts present at that time.

I agree with much of what you posted and would like to think I would fight. However, before 9/11, the universe of hijacker options was much different. After 9/11, I know I'd be in the front line.



To: Don Earl who wrote (589)5/9/2003 2:47:40 PM
From: Machaon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
You gave me a great explanation of the importance of courage, but you didn't answer my question.

I'll make it a little easier on you. Instead of being well armed, how about the following scenario. Just tell me what you would do. We all know that you would beat your chest, snarl your teeth, frown and show the terrorists your middle finger, but what else would you do with the following:?

Don Earl is on a plane that is hijacked by terrorists who have taken over the cockpit. They only have box cutters. They have announced that they don't intend to harm anyone, but if anyone tries to interfere, they will kill everyone.

No one has ever flown a plane into a building before. What do you do?

OTOH, what would you do if you knew that the plane was going to be flown into a building?



To: Don Earl who wrote (589)5/9/2003 2:50:28 PM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 20039
 
Clinton's failure to mobilize America to confront foreign terror after the 1993 attack led directly to 9-11 disaster
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To: Don Earl who wrote (589)5/9/2003 3:02:04 PM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 20039
 
<font color=blue> You wrote:"A person who lives their life in fear, afraid to do anything, dies a little bit every day."<font color=black>

There are different degrees of fear. Also, some are afraid because they don't know what to do. Most people are followers. That doesn't make them cowards.

<font color=blue> You wrote:"There's a kind of victim mentality that has permeated our culture over the past 30 years, and the crime rate has increased in direct proportion to the willingness of Americans to become victims."<font color=black>

The crime rate has increased because of the shit that gets elected to office. The laws favor the criminals. It has less to do with a "victim mentality" and more to do with lawyers writing laws that make themselves richer.

For instance. I would not let convicted felons get free legal help. If a repeat felon wants a good defense, let him work for it and pay for it like the rest of us. Why does society keep funding the expensive legal help for those that are constantly attacking it?

<font color=blue>You wrote:"The sole purpose of any society is to protect pregnant women and small children, everything else is icing on the cake. "<font color=black>

No protection neccessary for the elderly, large children, the handicapped, families, or medium sized children?

<font color=blue>You wrote:"Freedom comes with a price tag, it isn't a gift. If you aren't willing to defend it, you lose it."<font color=black>

Now you are preaching to the choir. I am a Jewish American Zionist. I know all to well the price of freedom.



To: Don Earl who wrote (589)5/9/2003 4:25:02 PM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 20039
 
How do you explain Al Queda bragging and boasting about 9/11 and that they are going to do it again?

Al Qaeda Planning New Attack on U.S., Member Says

Reuters
Friday, May 9, 2003; 12:53 PM

DUBAI (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda has reorganized and is planning an operation against the United States similar to the September 11 attacks, a member of the Islamic militant group has told an Arabic magazine.

In the article in Sunday's edition of the London-based weekly al-Majalla, made available in advance to Reuters, an al Qaeda "media coordinator" named as Thabet bin Qais also said that striking the U.S. consulate in Karachi was not a priority.

Washington said last week that al Qaeda was in the late stages of planning an aerial suicide attack on the consulate in Karachi when Pakistani authorities broke up a cell in the city last month and arrested six al Qaeda members.

"(The U.S. consulate) does not necessarily form a pressing target and striking it is not a priority for the organisation compared to the plans being made now for a strike of the size of the September 11 attacks in the United States," the prominent Saudi-owned magazine said, quoting bin Qais indirectly.

"He (bin Qais) stressed that the strike on America is definitely coming," it said, adding that bin Qais had said the movement had changed its structure after the September 11 attacks.

Around 3,000 people died when suicide plane hijackers attacked targets in New York and Washington on September 11, 2001. Washington says the attacks were carried out by al Qaeda, led by Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden.

"We in al Qaeda are cold toward news that talks about the Americans uncovering new plans or arrests of leaders," bin Qais was quoted as saying in direct speech. "We ignore these because we know that the Americans are moving in the expected direction. Their moves are very traditional," he said.

"Al Qaeda is still way ahead of the Americans and their allies in the intelligence war," bin Qais added in the comments, which al-Majalla said he sent to them via email.

washingtonpost.com