To: Sun Tzu who wrote (110 ) 5/10/2003 2:23:59 PM From: Volsi Mimir Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 520 isn't it amazing that scientists have no problem accepting messages from the future or multiple universes, but cringe at the suggestion that our actions are anything but automatic responses of bio-chemical matter to simple stimuli? I don't think "no problem" is the right criteria for acceptance or not, the ability to propose something like that and using a language agreeable to present that, will engage those that understand the mechanics(what where how why) of the result by the author. This way the arguments are deemed "rational" and maybe proved, questioned, or shown false- the examination is outside the person...... belief of something not seen, not shown (until purposedly after death), created by human thought (miracle, divination, conjuring, scheme) from within a human, and no agreement on the nature (ie animal, plant, omniscient, a guy), presented as a belief in supernatural or beyond the "normal realm" or this could only happen 2000 years ago or 5000 years ago, but not now........ the argument is not the same...... the conclusion, though, is ........ if you believe it, it is true. (short-sellers depend on it -g-) Have faith brother have faith. I was always curious of time....(no time for that, too late, too early, time to eat, time out, time I stopped this) One of the biggest events that changed history from/to religion is the date. Go to any western site (NY Times) and it will read May 10, 2003 (no questions asked), goto lets say Israel and you get May 8, 2003 / 6 Iyar 5763 jewishworldreview.com (a link to check--the last one on the 8th so for May 10 it should be 8 Iyar 5763) or Muslim (Pakistan news)dawn.com 10 May 2003 Saturday 07 Rabi-ul-Awwal 1424 Anyways, these are three of maybe more calendars or time entries for the same thing...... clearly based on a relative religious episode and for all who participate to acquiesce without regard ...... So here is the FREE issue of KronoScope to read more online:fidelio.ingentaselect.com check out the Mayan-- 144,000 day periods --- interesting--Revelation-ary the other issues are for a fee..... Its not that I'm cheap-- I just don't have the time for it....... For another link -- this is for the International Society for the Study of Time...... lots of articles on time:studyoftime.org some could be interesting (just some):link--CONTENT (titles only) Ågren, Hans. "Chinese traditional medicine." V:211 Akhundov, M.D. "Transformations of Kronos." VII:73 Albert, S. "Time, memory, and affect: Experimental studies of the subjective past." III:269 Alverson, H. "Cross-language universals in the experience of time: Collocational evidence in English, Mandarin, Hindi, and Sesotho." VIII:105 ______. "From 'Storied Time' to 'Clock Time' in Economic Globalization at the New Millennium." X:177 Argyros, A.J. "Interdisciplinarity and time." IX:137 Ariotti, P.E. "The concept of time in western antiquity." II:69 Arlow, J.A. "Time as emotion." VI:61 Atwood, S.G. "The development of the pendulum as a device for regulating clocks before the 18th century." II:417 Augusto, M.H.O. "Time and the individual in the contemporary world: The meaning of death." VIII:229 Aultman, M.H. "A lawyer's perspective: Re-presenting human life to society." VIII:199 Balslev, A.N. "Reflections on time in Indian philosophy." V:104 Becker, J. "Hindu-Buddhist time in Javanese gamelan music." IV:161 Bedini, S.E. "Oriental concepts of the measure of time." II:451 Bielawski, L. "The zones of time in music and human activity." IV:173 more--lot more =================== time to go.