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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (17295)	5/12/2003 9:30:47 PM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 21614

Raymond - you are a fricken idiot. Don't you find it amazing that the fringe nuts on the right all claim that the Jews control the media in OPPOSITION to the war and Bush while the fringe nuts on the left all claim that the Jews control the media in SUPPORT of the war. You think that everyone with Jewish names or Jewish backgrounds all unite with a common purpose. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. You're the guy who thinks there was plastique on the floors of the WTC to make sure that it collapsed, put there by one of Bush's underlings.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (17295)	5/13/2003 12:26:52 AM
From: Edscharp	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

Raymond, You're definitely vying for fool of the year. So, according to you the American Military is in charge. This can only mean that our elections are being manipulated by them. Odd however, since the military 'allowed' Clinton to defeat George Bush, Sr. in 1992 and that's right after Bush, Sr. had officiated over the successful Gulf War. You sure have to wonder why the military would've done that. Clinton is a liberal who significantly reduced the size of the military. And, in spite of that, according to you, the same right wing military allowed the liberal Clinton to win again in 1996 against arch-conservative Bob Dole. You really think your theory makes sense, duh? The biggest problem for the military of course would be rigging the elections. Since you're not from America you would have no way of knowing that each county and/or jurisdiction in each and every State has it's own Board of Elections. Election Judges are selected from the general population of people, democrats, republicans and independents, liberals and conservatives...any citizen can apply to be one. The election judges preside over the election process and insure that that elections and balloting are fair and honest. It would be impossible for the military to illegally influence the tens of thousands of regular citizens who participate in this process for every election without somebody reporting an irregularity. Furthermore, all Boards of Elections operate completely indpendently of each other. Undoubtedly, you're going to mention the Florida state Presidential election of 2000. George Bush clearly won the vote. A recount that took place after the election was settled also demonstrated that he won the vote. The big controversy in the State was the admittedly antiquated voting ballots that Florida used. For budget reasons Florida was way behind the trend of other states to modernize balloting methods. You'll have to pull the rubber band awfully hard to accuse the military of the 'hanging chad' problem. I only wish you knew how brainlessly obtuse your posts appear to all Americans. We do not say our election processes are perfect, but to rig them all would be an impossibility. There are too many eyes and ears peering into the process to get away with the kind of fraud you are suggesting. As for your other claims I would mention that there is a well-known journalistic maxim, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". The burden is upon you to prove that we are not a democracy, that Jews manipulate all branches of government, and that they conspire with the military to rule us all without our knowledge. Your post makes some veiled references without any supporting facts, for instance, "Who stood down on 9/11?". I don't even know what that means. It's not possible for me to refute a remark so obtuse and vague. You will have to do a lot better than that if you wish a serious reply from me.