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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (98753)	5/21/2003 3:23:44 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine, So does expulsion of arafat if it were to occur help/hurt Abu Mazan? I was encouraged earlier by that article about the Pal protests against the terrorists for a change. It is so sad that these folks have been in denial for so long. Forget all the history and all the false maps that are drawn--1% away from a deal and a non-starter like the right of return combined with I2 prevents millions of palestinians from living a decent life. Reminds of a Dylan song. "How many deaths will it take till they learn that too many people have died? The answer my friend is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind." mike

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (98753)	5/22/2003 8:31:03 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"All the Israelis and the Americans deny it, even Agha and Malley who generally take the Palestinian side, and the Palestinians themselves didn't start to claim it until about nine months after Taba,...." Since you do not refer to a site where one can see the "true" map I take it that any refutation by the Israelis and the Americans must be taken with a grain(several tons) of salt. As to the 9 month delay, I suspect that the publication of the maps was put off in order to enable both parts to negotiate further. If they had access to the maps at all then publicizing them immediately would put the Palestinians in a bad light. Agha and Malley's article, The Last Negotiation in Foreign Affairs was interesting and to the point. Thanks for the hint. I couldn't find any articles referring to the maps in Foreign Affairs, perhaps you can send a reference. The PR damage you refer to is diffuse, could you expand on this as it refers to the maps.