To: Stock Farmer who wrote (129163 ) 5/22/2003 12:18:46 AM From: Quincy Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472 "Outside the midwest, GSM is the vast majority of the market." Don't care. I fail to remember ever conveying any enthusiasm for sat phones except a fear that if they, along with sundry services such as WebVan, won't be able to stay alive long enough to make use of these services when my life could depend on them. We cannot intelligently parrot enthusiasm for WiFi spreading outside of congested areas as areas of similar population density make for really poor environments to call "home." In case no one noticed, there are gaps in GSM coverage hundreds of miles wide across North America. WiWhatever will grow. In Warehouses and Hospitals, you don't need 5ghz 802.16a as a backbone when you most likely have a fiber/ATM or Ethernet based IP transport for existing computing systems to hang all your AP's off of. As a 3G killer with V6, I don't see any signs that justify rob's enthusiasm for WiWhatever integrated with GPRS. Phone is for dialtone. WiFi is for computer hanging off a DSL line or huddled in a hotspot. Does GPRS suck hard enough to combine them? With circuit-switched voice flying out the door 1,000 minutes for $40 a month, tell me why I want VOIP? "And that giving away cheap stuff so's to hook folks on the expensive stuff only works for drug addicts" Yet POTS modems are still in demand in areas well covered by cablemodems and DSL for the simple reason it is either free or is priced at less than half of DSL. I have IP service hanging off of OC3 and T3's at work. Yet, at home, I have basic DSL service because I am cheap and my microsoft jumbo-patches apparently arrive when I am away from the machine. Yes, 384/128k is fast enough for me. You seem to have an almost unique vision of the demand for portable computing devices and its ability to cover the staggering cost of deploying continuous hotspot service. I believe its an expensive assumption.