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To: Clappy who wrote (26509)	5/23/2003 11:33:46 AM
From: abuelita	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104197

clappy - can you see it? antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov

To: Clappy who wrote (26509)	5/24/2003 9:07:48 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 104197

No, not in our lifetimes. Rat

To: Clappy who wrote (26509)	6/5/2003 3:35:55 PM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 104197

Clappy What you’re discussing is the general theory of relativity. The special theory is relatively <g> straight forward and comprehensible. The General Theory (which incls. forces and accelerations) took Einstein an additional ten years and some mathematical assistance. By no means am I an expert on the General Theory, so for definitive answers to your questions you will have to inquire elsewhere. Some of your statements bother me though. You seem to have an idea of 3-dimensionable space-time existing separate from the universe. Then at some point in space-time the universe starts (Big Bang) and expands from that point which you christen the “center” . You go on to discus such peculiarities as the “distance from the center”. From what little I understand of relativity, this flies in the face of the fundamental premise of even Special Relativity - i. e. there is no special place in the Universe like your center. Alles ist Relativ - all is relative. There is no space-time prior to the big bang. Space-time are properties we ascribe to phenomena in our universe. Many believe that space and time are merely the “averaged out”: properties of all of the elementary particles in our Universe. In any event, I know of no one, who from a Relativistic perspective thinks the Universe expanded into an already existing space-time continuum. Without mater concepts like space and time quickly become less than vacuous. So, not to wax religious, before ‘Let there be Light”, there was nothing - a nothing that is so nothing that it is difficult to conceptualize. No space-time, just nothing as in the opposite of anything (or at least anything that you as a being of this Universe are likely to conceive of). OTOH, given your quirky brain … lurqer

To: Clappy who wrote (26509)	6/5/2003 7:50:34 PM
From: Dalin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104197

Cosmic Tripper, How ya been? Long time, no type to. <g> Relativity? Isn't that when your mother-in-law comes over to drink your booze? I have my own theory. Well, not really my own, because I originally heard it from someone else.....but I don't hear about it much. Hmmmm..ya think that's cuz it's WRONG?<g> MIB believes........ The Universe is infinite. Infinitely large, and infintely small. The earth, whirling around the sun, whirling through space, is just like the electrons, whirling around the nucleous, whirling through its space...etc. etc. In other words, maybe were just a molecule, in the pimple on some HUGE creatures butt. <g> ....and when that baby pops.......wait...... maybe that WAS the big bang! lol So...This is what you have been up to? Studying physics and stuff?<g> P.P.S. I don't have time to spell check. Sorry about that. You have all the time in the world.......if ya run real fast. How about this market? Did ya get long? ...and just like the market, we're hiring again. About dang time. Hows your biz? Good I hope. I'll B bach! :o) Ramblin