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To: lurqer who wrote (26737)	6/5/2003 4:33:10 PM
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To: lurqer who wrote (26737)	6/6/2003 7:21:45 AM
From: Clappy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 104197

Four Star General Theory, How are you? Did you go rock climbing/digging or something neat like that? Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand. I was picturing that little tiny speck where the Big Bang occurred as the center as like on the 4th of July with those fancy fireworks. (The tiny little super ultra dense sub atomic particle that started it all.) I suppose I was labeling that as the center for ease of explanation but see my theory is completely wrong anyhow as a time travel point of view. I realize now if someone is riding on that centrifical force amusement park ride that sticks you to the wall, the person in the center experiences time moving slower than the dude stuck all the way out on the wall. However time never goes in reverse in that scenario. So no time travel that way. Getting back to our little Big Bang speck... So, not to wax religious, before ‘Let there be Light”, there was nothing - a nothing that is so nothing that it is difficult to conceptualize. No space-time, just nothing as in the opposite of anything (or at least anything that you as a being of this Universe are likely to conceive of). OTOH, given your quirky brain … <vbg> (Pardon the following pun) Give me time. I'm still trying to figure out where Jello came from... ...and caffeine free diet Pepsi. That nasty, toxic stuff can't be from our universe. Anyhow I've taken my quest of time-travel to another person. I'm reading Stephen Hawking's book "The Universe In a Nutshell." Last night I was trying to absorb some of the chapter about that topic (while watching the MTV Movie Awards) and he mentioned a few scenarios that I still have not fully grasped. He mentioned something about flying out in space as fast as we could go without reaching the speed of light in our spaceship and then entering a wormhole which zips you to another part of the universe and fly home arriving 15 minutes before you left... Ya see I skipped over the Wormhole chapter (because he said readers could jump around to any chapter they choose after reading the first few about Einstein's theories). So now I have to go back and read that about wormholes and then reread this chapter on Time Travel. After I get the gist of what he's saying I'll revisit this conversation again. One thing I found to be interesting/scarey/paranoid was Hawking's mention of how physicists often talk in code among each other when referring to this subject. They are worried that any discoveries would be considered to be the ultimate military target or achievement. Sorta sad that after all of this forward-(and backward)- looking-thought, the time machine would be coveted mostly for its military aspects... He even jests of a governmental cover-up concerning this. ie: Perhaps, those from our future have come back already and are waging different strategies. Did they cause the chads to hang? Are they the cause of this stock market bubble? <vbg> Or the fighting in the Mid East? If some one can come back in time does it mean there is already an infinite amount of parallel dimensions out there where we exist in various time frames? If I close my eyes and think of that same nothingness that you mention, is it possible to float out there near the fringe of nothingness and around to the different parallel dimensions? Can I meditate myself back to five minutes ago by floating through space and entering a wormhole? Or is it as easy as slipping into another dimension? Can I meditate myself up to my kitchen 10 minutes ago for some more bacon and eggs without ever getting full if I repeat it every 10 minutes? Or is my parallel self already out to lunch. These are questions that occupy my head... Actually I think I would meditate myself over to that sailboat in Belize with Polvo for a day or two... I'm going to go close my eyes and think about that some more. I will see you yesterday and discuss it some more...<g> And one other thought. If the Universe expands and expands and eventually reverses where all matter begins to condense back to the original point of the Big Bang, it will eventually get back to it's tiniest, super, ultra dense sub atomic particle, then it will happen all over again. Bang! Here we go again. In several bazillion years, I wonder if there is a chance we all reappear doing everything over again but we won't realize it. I'll be thinking about this on the way to work today as I get deja vu once more as some guy cuts me off and gives me the finger. -CorporalCosmicClappy