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To: Ilaine who wrote (99019)	5/24/2003 10:49:02 AM
From: Sig	Respond to of 281500

Once in war, the conflict obliterates the past and the future, all is one heady intoxicating present. You feel every heartbeat in war, colors are brighter, your mind races ahead of itself. (Confusion, microphone problems, etc.) We feel in wartime comradeship. (Boos) We confuse this with friendship, with love. There are those who will insist that the comradeship of war is love -- the exotic glow that makes us in war feel as one people, one entity, is real, but this is part of war's intoxication. Think back on the days after the attacks on 9-11. Suddenly we no longer felt alone; we connected with strangers, even with people we did not like. We felt we belonged, that we were somehow wrapped in the embrace of the nation, the community; in short, we no longer felt alienated.>>> The essence and importance of comradeship learned in wartime cannot be over-emphasised in regard to what America has accomplished to date and will accomplish in the future. One time strangers, living together, learning together and working in a common cause. All clubs- the Masons, the Elks, the Churches, Companies, the anti-tax organizations -are able to be effective and work toward common goals when one-time strangers work together. Building the railroads, the Ford motor Company, Boulder dam, the CCC, the WPA, housewives building airplane parts in WW!! all working together with one-time strangers. He talks of lack of humility among the Military ? BS He does not know the facts. These people left everything behind- friends, family, loved ones, stripped of their civilian clothes the day they enlisted and became totally dependant on strangers to feed, clothes and house them. And wherever you go, there is someone who out-ranks you and gives the orders. Send him to Boot Camp Sig

To: Ilaine who wrote (99019)	5/24/2003 11:36:23 AM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 281500

Christian Evangelical groups who are being allowed to follow on the heels of our occupying troops to try and teach Muslims about Jesus. Ahhh! So, that's what it's all about! It ain't "oil" anymore! It's just an old-fashioned Crusade! The real fool here is the college President, who allowed this fellow to steal the show. The kids and their parents deserve better on the graduation day. Some difference between this and the Hanson article... Message 18970275

To: Ilaine who wrote (99019)	5/24/2003 2:01:12 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sullivan says Hedges has a long history of pro-pal pieces. >>>HEDGES AGAIN: Yes, the NYT hack who gave the offensive commencement speech was the same Chris Hedges who wrote the now-infamous piece of factually-challenged anti-Israel propaganda, published by the old leftist bore, Lewis Lapham. Here's a righteous fisking of the piece. Hedges is a political extremist masquerading as a reporter. That's why he has found such a comfortable niche at Howell Raines' New York Times.<< Here is the "Fisking" Chris Hedges, Harper's, and Israel November 7, 2001 Chris Hedges--"A Gaza Diary: Scenes from the Palestinian Uprising," published in the September/October edition of Harper's, is severely marred by material errors and grave anti-Israel bias. Despite being an experienced journalist, Mr. Hedges repeatedly offers verbatim Palestinian claims of Israeli misconduct without providing either an Israeli response or independent corroborating information. CAMERA has now fact-checked numerous allegations made by the reporter and has found many to be false. Following are some of the major errors identified. REST AT:http://world.std.com/~camera/docs/alert/hedges.html