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To: Elsewhere who wrote (99144)	5/26/2003 7:01:22 AM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Respond to of 281500

In the wake of the Iraq war, the E.P.A. announced that the average fuel economy of America's cars and trucks fell to its lowest level in 22 years, with the 2002 model year. Indeed, and attention to this problem has been called time and again; here are the latest statistics. epa.gov

To: Elsewhere who wrote (99144)	5/26/2003 10:24:48 AM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Hummers Here, Hummers There?? Saudia Arabia, Africa ,and gas consumption- so many subjects so little time It Takes A Crisis.. to deflect a tradition, to pass new laws It comes from the attitude that it cant happen here, or it cant happen to me because(.........) Freidman is probably right about Saudi Arabia. I would have thought that the recent bombings were wake up call to action, but each of the Princes could argue that it was an attack on American institutions, it would not have happened without us being there, and that his regime/city.area would be immune. And thus not considered to be a crisis requiring major instant changes to national policy. 911 was a crisis, and did cause changes, but I happen to live in a rural area close to an airbase, and would not expect to be as subject to a terrorist attack as a city resident, but am aware, in thinking, that a big threat exists if our economy is affected by one. The gas shortage of the 1970's was a crisis, and laws were passed regarding vehicle economy, which in a short time were by-passed by such actions as deciding trucks as small as 1/2 ton were not to be included in the CAFE averages . We had laws regarding Savings and Loans operations but it took the S+L crisis to point out how badly they were being bypassed or misused. It took an Election crisis , to show there was something seriously wrong with the voting laws/machines in Florida and elsewhere Its as if our government is running a herd of sick horses, with the Administration trying to keep them working by feeding them Epsom salts to keep them going ,saying its just a temporary problem, until they suddenly collapse and they call a vet (or lawyers) and send the bill to the Taxpayers to replace the horse by a bigger one, or even an elephant.. Sig

To: Elsewhere who wrote (99144)	5/26/2003 11:13:29 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"In the wake of the Iraq war, the E.P.A. announced that the average fuel economy of America's cars and trucks fell to its lowest level in 22 years, with the 2002 model year. That is a travesty. No wonder foreigners think we sent our U.S. Army Humvees to control Iraq, just so we could drive more G.M. Hummers over here. When our president insists that we can have it all — big cars, big oil, lower taxes, with no sacrifices or conservation — why shouldn't the world believe that all we are about is protecting our right to binge?" that is a cheap shot at the president... imo.... it is nuts to tell the american public they need to drive small cars or smaller engines lacking performance in order to get better mileage... WE do not want to drive smaller cars so politics says do not impose what your people do not want or get voted out of office. Price of gasoline will take care of the size of a car. If prices go sky high the average middle income will buy a more fuel effecient car, the hummers will continue to drive the hummer since they can afford the price of gas , I doubt buying a hummer had anything to do with mileage.