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To: tejek who wrote (170322)	6/2/2003 3:55:24 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583406

Countries simply don't give other countries a vote on how they will act. The technological and cultural effects aren't even from our government. The only way our government could give other governments a vote is if it greatly restricted the freedom of Americans. The military and security issues are something where the best other countries or groups can hope for is that we consider their input. (and after consideration, accept it, partially accept it, negotiate or deny it). Tim

To: tejek who wrote (170322)	6/2/2003 4:53:41 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583406

Hence, 9/11. This is where the story really gets interesting. Because suddenly, Puff the Magic Dragon — a benign U.S. hegemon touching everyone economically and culturally — turns into Godzilla, a wounded, angry, raging beast touching people militarily. Now, people become really frightened of us, a mood reinforced by the Bush team's unilateralism. With one swipe of our paw we smash the Taliban. Then we turn to Iraq. Then the rest of the world says, "Holy cow! Now we really want a vote over how your power is used." That is what the whole Iraq debate was about. People understood Iraq was a war of choice that would affect them, so they wanted to be part of the choosing. We said, sorry, you don't pay, you don't play. I think the problem is a different one. He seems to put a lot of emphasis on 9/11 and forgets that the Godzilla faction urged Puff the Magic Dragon to invade Iraq back in 1998, long before 9/11 (on humanitarian grounds of course <<gg>>). The rest is history....gw comes to power (on dubious grounds) and he surrounds himself with the same bunch of goons etc.. etc... Al