To: Alighieri who wrote (170347 ) 6/2/2003 6:05:05 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583550 Hence, 9/11. This is where the story really gets interesting. Because suddenly, Puff the Magic Dragon — a benign U.S. hegemon touching everyone economically and culturally — turns into Godzilla, a wounded, angry, raging beast touching people militarily. Now, people become really frightened of us, a mood reinforced by the Bush team's unilateralism. With one swipe of our paw we smash the Taliban. Then we turn to Iraq. Then the rest of the world says, "Holy cow! Now we really want a vote over how your power is used." That is what the whole Iraq debate was about. People understood Iraq was a war of choice that would affect them, so they wanted to be part of the choosing. We said, sorry, you don't pay, you don't play. I think the problem is a different one. He seems to put a lot of emphasis on 9/11 and forgets that the Godzilla faction urged Puff the Magic Dragon to invade Iraq back in 1998, long before 9/11 (on humanitarian grounds of course <<gg>>). The rest is history....gw comes to power (on dubious grounds) and he surrounds himself with the same bunch of goons etc.. etc... Al, 9/11 is important because GW and his goons would not have been able to get away with Iraq and their militant approach to world matters if it weren't for 9/11. 9/11 raised the fear factor by double in this country and made many liberals into pseudo hawks. Its the old "the death penalty is immoral and evil sensibility until they catch someone in their house ransacking the place, eating their food and maybe threatening their lives, and then its an 'off with their heads' attitude"! THEY brought 'their dirty little war' to our doorstep and we didn't like it......understandably. Therefore, the American public gave its nod to GW to turn Puff into Godzilla all the while ignoring any culpability we might have in 'their dirty little war'. I think its a mistake to underestimate the significance of 9/11.......it made this brave new world very possible, and turned GW into the president he is today. ted