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To: Neocon who wrote (411211)	6/3/2003 11:43:15 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Neocon, I favor a mixed economy. According to the data (from you website you site): Between 1991 and 2001, Sweden's Per Capita GDP fell significantly. mrdowling.com Here's another way to look at the data: Note Table 2 and Table 3. parliament.uk Let's also not forget that Sweden was neutral during WWII, and therefore undamaged from the conflict (in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if their economy grew during WWII - while other European countries decreased) - allowing them to be competitive (post war) despite their socialism.

To: Neocon who wrote (411211)	6/3/2003 11:21:30 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

It will be difficult indeed for you to back up the assertion that "social democracy did not harm Sweden, or Western Europe in general." It is an unprovable assertion which cannot be based in fact and which shouldn't be stated as fact as you have. Obviously, whatever the measure, one should have to replay history differently to prove a case either way, and that can't be done. I suspect that there have been strong arguments made showing likely and specific negative effects of the absence of freedoms in Sweden and Western Europe in general. But to assert that such arguments have no weight and no harm has been done, is a far bolder position, IMO, which flies in the face of my belief that Freedom Works. If the complexity of empirical data altered the validity of this natural truism, it would become a relevant case buster for me. Dan B