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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (99986)	6/3/2003 12:45:08 PM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>now, all he needs is some stuff looted from Iraqi nuke sites<< This is what worries me, but evidently not the powers that be. They worry about finding WMD so they look good, while 20 barrels of known radioactive material has been looted under their noses from UN-sealed well known Iraqi sites. Some of it MAY be Cesium 137, deadly stuff that in a dirty bomb can make 9/11 look like a picnic. The incompetence of our government and their obsession with spin over substance never ceases to amaze me.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (99986)	6/3/2003 12:49:02 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Respond to of 281500

Clerics fill political void in Baghdad HAMZA HENDAWI ASSOCIATED PRESS Jun. 3, 2003 BAGHDAD—The list of recommendations for students attending al-Nidaa Intermediate School for Girls is difficult to miss. It's plastered on the gate. Observe Islam's strict dress code, it says, and call on others to follow suit. Don't watch movies and TV soap operas. Make sure you pray and read the Qur'an every day. Emboldened by Saddam Hussein's ouster last month, some Muslim clerics are wasting no time in exploiting the political void in U.S.-occupied Iraq to impose some of Islam's stricter tenets on this predominantly Muslim, but relatively liberal, nation of 24 million. The campaign is led by Shiite Muslim clerics who, since Saddam's fall, call the shots in most Baghdad neighbourhoods and in Shiite-dominated cities across the country. While distancing themselves from violence, the clerics acknowledge that creating a purist Islamic state is their ultimate goal. Besides exhorting women to take the hijab — the Islamic dress code that requires covering the entire body except the face and hands — Iraqis are told in flyers, graffiti and sermons to consult Muslim clerics on "everything, big and small." In recent weeks, some liquor stores have closed after being attacked or threatened. Cinemas showing soft-porn movies have been told to stop — or else. Some heeded the warning, showing action films instead; others just made their film posters less provocative with black paint. Graffiti across Baghdad call for the creation of an Islamic state. "No Saddam, no America, only Islam," reads one scrawling. "Iraqi society, by nature, rejects such social looseness," said Sheik Abbas al-Rabia'i, a senior Shiite cleric who runs a self-styled Islamic court at Hikmah mosque in Baghdad's al-Thawra neighbourhood. "These are dirty films that pose a danger to our youths." The campaign for a strict interpretation of Islamic laws is, predictably, accompanied by some anti-American rhetoric. At the heart of the movement, however, is the conviction propagated by clerics that al-Hawza al-Ilmiyah, the supreme Shiite learning centre in the holy city of Najaf, is the strongest and most popular authority in Iraq today. "No, no to America! No, no to Satan!" 25,000 worshippers chanted during Friday prayers last week at al-Thawra, a vast and poor Baghdad district once known as Saddam City that is home to 2 million Shiites. Shiites make up 60 per cent of Iraq's 24 million people and have a similar majority in Baghdad. Their political empowerment in the wake of Saddam's ouster has turned clerics into community leaders, taking charge of hospitals, schools, welfare, security and even creating an Islamic legal system. "Our voice is not the voice of terrorism," said Sheik Kazem al-Abadi in a recent sermon at al-Thawra's popular Mohsen mosque. "We just want to offer guidance to society." thestar.com

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (99986)	6/3/2003 5:47:36 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

For how many years had Saddam, as well as Iraq and North Korea been sending parts and pieces of various WMD to terrorists???? If one goes back and reviews the last couple of years, there has been ample material pointing to just such adventurers of the countries who supply materials and money to terrorists. Review the 1999 US House of Representatives Report on North Korea that I have posted here several times. Seems to me the Bush Administration gave this as a BIG reason to oust Saddam from power, and even Bill Clinton agreed. Check google...you will see.