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To: D. Long who wrote (100495)	6/6/2003 7:25:51 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

This is totally expected. The question is, what can Abbas do? And if he can't do anything, what will Bush do? You know damn well he won't let this go like Clinton did. Hamas Halts Truce Talks With Abbas By REUTERS - NEW YORK TIMES Filed at 6:48 a.m. ET GAZA (Reuters) - The militant Islamic group Hamas said on Friday it was breaking off talks with Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas on ending its attacks on Israelis in a strong challenge to peace pledges he made at a U.S.-led summit. The announcement by Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi, a top Hamas leader, set Palestinian hard-liners and Abbas's new reformist government on a collision course likely to stoke fears of civil war. ``The dialogue has ended,'' Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi told Reuters. He said Abbas made unacceptable commitments at the landmark summit in Aqaba, Jordan, on Wednesday with President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in which they affirmed initial steps in a ``road map'' for peace. Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, called for a demilitarisation of a 32-month-old Palestinian uprising for independence, effectively advocating an end to an armed struggle for a state. Bush, cementing his new role as chief Middle East peace mediator, won a promise from Sharon to dismantle some settler outposts in the West Bank and beamed as the Israeli leader endorsed the creation of a ``viable'' Palestinian state. Hamas has spearheaded attacks on Israelis, including dozens of suicide bombings, during the revolt and said immediately after the summit that it would not lay down its arms. The road map calls for an end to Israeli-Palestinian violence and reciprocal confidence-building steps, including a freeze of Jewish settlement expansion on occupied land, leading to establishment of a Palestinian state in 2005. PALESTINIAN MINISTER RULES OUT FORCE AGAINST HAMAS Abbas held truce talks with Hamas before the Aqaba meeting and had expressed confidence he would achieve a cease-fire soon in further talks with the group, which has said peacemaking must await an end to Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza. ``Let Abu Mazen use whatever force he wishes against the Palestinian people, the Palestinian people will never cede an inch of their land,'' Rantissi said. Ziad Abu Amr, the Palestinian cabinet minister commissioned by Abbas to liase with various factions, said the government had made a commitment ``not to resort to force in running internal Palestinian affairs.'' The afterglow of the summit had already faded on Thursday, when Palestinian President Yasser Arafat publicly questioned whether anything had been achieved and hard-liners on both sides vowed to oppose the road map. An Israeli security source said that next week Sharon would begin dismantling some of the 50 hilltop outposts built by Jewish settlers without government permission since he came to power in March 2001. Israeli officials have said as few as 10 may be dismantled. On Thursday, Israeli forces shot and killed two wanted Hamas militants in the West Bank city of Tulkarm, a sign the violence Washington had hoped to end was unlikely to abate. nytimes.com

To: D. Long who wrote (100495)	6/6/2003 8:10:59 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Don't you see, you're contradicting yourself. How can you write this... Saddam knowingly provided a safe haven to an active international terrorist network. and this? Ansur al-Islam was based in the mountains along the Iranian border, and had forcibly taken several villages tenuously under Kurdish control. this group took land - Saddam didn't provide them any safe haven, they took land that we'd blocked him from keeping in his dictatorship. If they took the land from anyone, it ws the Kurds, or us. Because Ansur al-Islam controlled that area. Like it says above. "Ansar al-Islam, t-h-a-t c-o-n-t-r-o-l-s t-h-i-s c-o-r-n-o-r o-f I-r-a-q." You're the stupid one who's unable to read... But Baghdad has an agent in the most senior levels of the radical organization, Ansar al-Islam, that controls this corner of Iraq. In 2000 this agent offered al-Qaida safe haven in the region. In other words, they weren't there before. Whether or not this agent existed, if he offered this group a safe haven, it's nothing to do with Saddam because it wasn't his control to give. You're the one incapable of understanding the pap you spurt at me... Sorry, you're wasting too much of my time. Have as many last words as you wish.