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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (100707)	6/8/2003 5:14:45 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Do you have concrete (no pun) proof of your statement? Not so long ago, Argentinian soldiers were rounding up dissidents, anybody who criticized them for any reason. They would tie them up, drug them, put them on planes, fly over the ocean, open the door, and push them out. These were not a few isolated cases. It was a systematic campaign, carried out on a massive scale, over many years. Thousands of Disappeared. And not just in Argentina, but in a long list of nations.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (100707)	6/8/2003 6:27:10 PM
From: NickSE	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

How exactly do the Republicans get handed the bulk of the complicity in the disappearances in Argentina, when Jimmy Carter, a Democrat, governed for nearly two-thirds of the campaign which spanned from 1976 to 1983? But it was the conservative Republicans who most consistently supported these campaigns to Disappear dissidents. In many cases, it is the exact same individuals who are now running the Bush Administration.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (100707)	6/9/2003 2:41:48 AM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There is something ludicrous, about this sudden conversion to humanitarianism Whose conversion to humanitarianism? I don't dispute what happened in Argentina. I have friends there. Argentina, then, has nothing to do with Iraq, today. The US policy regarding S America then is not the same as its policy regarding S America now. US is withdrawing support for dictators and has been since the end of the cold war. I find nothing "ludicrous" in this and think it's a tremendously good thing. This "humanitarian" line, is just an attempt, after the fact, to construct a plausible fall-back position, now that the principle reason for the war has been discredited. You can't hide the Wolfowitz under a sheep's pelt. The principal reason, in my view and I argued it here since the very start of my contributions to this board, was the nature of the Iraq regime. I've always said the possible ownership of WMDs is far less significant than the nature of the regime. I note, and you don't, except to say it's only a convenient excuse, that nearly every time Bush mentioned Iraq in the year leading up to the invasion, he talked about the evil nature of the Iraq regime with plenty of evidence other than WMDs, and was mostly focused on the necessity of regime change, as was the previous administration and Congress. I stand by what I said in my post to you. Your "Kantian" argument is a prescription for rote action and is an excuse for lack of ethical responsibility.