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Strategies & Market Trends : Africa and its Issues- Why Have We Ignored Africa? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (106)	6/13/2003 2:47:20 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1267

Well said - just to balance the debate, however, the other great tragedy in Africa comes from Africans themselves. The outside world may supply the weaponry but it's Africans killing Africans by the millions, Africans running the brutal and corrupt regimes, Africans in the rebel militias and coup-prone armies and all the rest. In the early 1990's, Africa had a brief period when democracy appeared in more and more countries, most of the wars and conflicts from the 70's and 80's abated and it looked like hope might finally triumph. That was the continent's best chance since the end of the Cold War. Now Africa has descended into the current hell of multiple wars and famines once again. It's an old cliche, but until Africa takes responsibility for itself, we are unlikely to see much change there at all. I am deeply disappointed in Thabo Mbeki, who could have been the real African leader of the 21st century instead of a forgettable bumbler. I don't see any other great leaders on the scene anywhere.

To: epicure who wrote (106)	6/13/2003 7:45:26 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1267

The mass graves are most certainly from the period when we gave Iraq our full support and we KNEW about the killings. I don't think that's true. The mass graves I've read about seem to come from the 1991 period and later. What you support, you lose the right to condemn later- So we have no right to criticize Stalin? There is another issue involved in the African - Iraq comparison besides simply counting bodies. Iraq was a case where things can be improved by removing a regime. Africa is a lot more complicated - tribal warfare. I'd be interested in hearing how you think we should handle the Congo situation. The UN fort idea seems like it would only work if you could create a fort (actually fortified refugee camp) large enough to hold all the potential victims of violence - which would amount to hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, possibly permanently. Anyway, what should we be doing that we aren't?