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To: Dayuhan who wrote (101661)6/16/2003 12:05:55 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>The rest of you may be moving on to a point where you are told that if we don't immediately invade Syria, Iran, or North Korea, the world as we know it will come to an end. Will you believe? Will other people believe? <<

Oh, Steven. Too bad that you are turning into the kind of person you are turning into. I had higher hopes for you.

Here's hoping that after November 5, 2004, you'll regain your bullshit detector and your sense of balance.

As for Iran, I think the people in Iran are going to take matters into their own hands - with help from our government, of course, acting as something closely resembling a midwife.

We aren't going to look the other way anymore.

This, ordinarily, would be something you professed to admire, but you won't be able to stomach it if it's done under Bush instead of, say, Clinton or Gore or John Kerry or John Edwards. Too bad for you.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (101661)6/16/2003 12:30:02 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The rest of you may be moving on to a point where you are told that if we don't immediately invade Syria, Iran, or North Korea, the world as we know it will come to an end.

Don't you think that's a bit extreme Steven? I have respect for your experiences around the world and surely you understand that we don't always have to use a sledgehammer to pound in a nail..

Iraq was different.. We could make a decisive change in the strategic balance of power in that region with relatively little risk and potentially significant gain. And there is no doubt the middle east is the region most important to the interests of Western economies.

We certainly wouldn't be involved to this extent were it not for the oil in the region that fuels our economies.

And that's why we're not opting for the military solution on the Korean peninsula (yet). Because China has no interest in another Korean war, or a nuclear armed government in Pyongyang. And S. Korea can successfully defend itself from any invasion from the North (although it would be a bloody victory).

Syria could be a different issue though. I'm hoping there's sufficient "influence" that can be applied to make some difference there. It's really use to Bashir Assad.. But that's a battle for later on... Hopefully one we don't have to fight.

Hawk