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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (25061)	7/5/2003 3:19:36 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

"because it seems that only military operations can discourage the plans for a people's war with which they threaten us." Thanks for fleshing that out! That is a wonderful summary of Israel's foreign policy. Bottom line Thomas, if somone were surrounded by sworn enemies Egypt was not a sworn enemy of Israel. Egypt always offered peace treaties and negotiations. Israel refused to sign a peace treaty with Egypt in the early 1950s, then committed acts terrorism in Egypt (Lavon, etc.), then invaded Egypt in 1956, and on and on. <<< In the 1950s few people believed that Nasser had aggressive intentions towards Israel. Richard Grossman, a British Zionist, wrote in 1955 that: "not only Egypt, but the whole Middle East must pray that Nasser survives the assassin's bullet. I am certain that he is a man who means what he says, and that so long as he is in power directing his middle-class revolution, Egypt will remain a factor for peace and social development" >>> csf.colorado.edu Tom

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (25061)	7/5/2003 3:31:11 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

If you come looking for a fight, I'll be happy to give it to you. Interesting comment. Let's examine your "fight": There WAS a UN Observer force in place between Egypt and Israel. There WAS a UN CEASE FIRE agreement in place, which those observers oversaw fairly successfully, with relative peace existing on the border. Nasser kicked them out Wow, that is mind boggling! After I already extablished that this is a lie, you simply come right back and re-post it. Israel violated the cease-fire agreement (for a war that Israel started!!!), and somehow you try to pin this violation of the cease-fire on Egypt? LOL! For the record, Nasser DID NOT kick out the UN troops. Cut 5% out of the US economy Who said anything about cutting it out? All Israel had to do was redirect the imports. Most of that 5% consisted of oil, as you noted.. And since Israel has little to no oil, it's a VITAL commodity. I like the way you simply skip over the main point in my post - that Egypt is not required to help Israel fuel its military after Israel has made a military threat to Egypt's ally. Another interesting result of your post is that you have justified Pearl Harbor. According to your logic, Japan was justified because of the U.S. embargo on Japanese oil. That's your idea of a fight? LOL! Tom