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To: gamesmistress who wrote (103825)	7/2/2003 11:50:50 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

scott has a talent for finding articles like that. They tried to Vietnamize the war, but a war that was over in less than three weeks gave them little opportunity, though they did try hard in week two. But now that the occupation will take a long time, they are trying again.

To: gamesmistress who wrote (103825)	7/2/2003 11:58:15 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Every single cliche from every anti-war article/editorial out there is in this one article. Amazing" From the post you attacked. "... but the Administration has tacitly and actively encouraged the American people to conclude that Iraq attacked us. (The terrorists who attacked us were predominantly Saudi Arabian, and their funding was primarily through Saudi Arabian interests). Any links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been to date tenuous at best." This says that Bush II lied to you and you bought that cliché.

To: gamesmistress who wrote (103825)	7/2/2003 1:50:09 PM
From: Rascal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Real Theater How Iraq's WMDS became a "Weapons Program" and why we need President Clinton's reputation to try to burnish ours. I wonder why pResient Bush didn't cite President CLinton's intelligence of 1998 as the smoking gun in his miState of the Union Address. Funny Colin Powell did not mention President CLinton's 1998 intelligence in his "Smoking Gun" presentation to the UN on Feb.5th. whitehouse.gov Q On weapons of mass destruction, is it fair to say now, after two months of looking for them, that there is a discrepancy between what the intelligence community and you and your top officials described as the threat from Saddam Hussein, and what was actually there on the ground? THE PRESIDENT: No, Saddam Hussein had a weapons program. Remember, he used them. He used chemical weapons on his own people. Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States, because we removed him. But he was a threat -- such a threat that my predecessor, using the same intelligence, in 1998, ordered a bombing of Iraq. I mean, so, no, he was a threat. He's not a threat now. And the world is more peaceful by virtue of the fact that he is not in power. See, we've been there, what, how many days? You're counting the days since we've been there? Because I'm not. Eighty, ninety? Frankly, it wasn't all that long ago that we started military operations. And we got rid of him, much faster than a lot of people thought. And so we're bringing some order to the country and we're beginning to learn the truth. But he played his hand, Terry -- he, Saddam Hussein -- when he used chemical weapons. And then he played his hand by not letting people come in and inspect for the weapons. He had them. And it's just a matter of time. It's a matter of time. The man was a threat to America. He's not a threat today. But what we're really finding out, as well, is the threat he posed to the Iraqi people. I mean, we have uncovered some unbelievable scenes. I have not seen them, myself; they've been described to me, what it means to see mass graves opened up, with the remains of men and women and children murdered by that regime. He was a threat to America. He was a threat to freedom-loving countries. He was a threat in the Middle East. But what we're finding out is the nature of this man when it came to how he dealt with the Iraqi people, as well. And it was -- it's unbelievable what he did. And I -- when it comes to the AIDS initiative, we believe in human dignity, we also believe that everybody ought to live in free societies, too. And so we'll stay the course in Iraq. As I said, there's people there that would like to run us out of there, create the conditions where we get nervous and decide to leave. We're not going to get nervous, and we're not leaving until we accomplish the task. And that task is going to be a free country run by the Iraqi people. And that, in turn, will help the peace in the Middle East. That, in turn, will bring stability in a part of the world that needs stability. And I am -- I'm optimistic about achieving this objective because I believe that people want to be free. I believe it's in the nature of the individual to love freedom and embrace freedom. Ah, Mission Creep. Eh, Mission Creepy. How did we go from the Mushroom CLoud Condy and CHeney scared us about on the talk shows to And that task is going to be a free country run by the Iraqi people. We don't need an investigation. Another few months and the Administration will unravel itself. Rascal@ patientpoliteinformedpatriot.com PS Bush says "Bring it ON." As long as he can be at Crawford or Kennebunkport or Camp David while our troops are swinging in 120 degree wind in Iraq. Glad he won't get nervous. What about the young men and women ducking attacks in Iraq for a trumped up mission. Maybe they are nervous and want to come home.