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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (423897)	7/7/2003 6:17:33 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

You spend a lot of time hating breaks that allow older people to live a good life. I hope you don't regret your words 50 years from now.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (423897)	7/7/2003 6:20:51 PM
From: jim-thompson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I thought you guys liked jails. I still remember a fellow we used to call Lipstick. Lipstick was always committing petty crimes so he could get thrown in the city jail.....

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (423897)	7/9/2003 2:39:36 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I'm all for that. Now that surprises me. You'd actually kill SS and Medicare? Can you make that same claim? Corporate welfare sucks. Farm subsidies should be eliminated immediately. How's that? The fact is, the generation of people in this country around 30 years ago thought they deserved a free ride, and they passed laws to that effect. SS is a LOT older than 30 years. It wasn't just "the generation of people in this country around 30 years ago" that passed Prop 13, Libby. It took a majority of voters, remember? And it wasn't done to get a "free ride". It was done because the pols had discovered and were rapaciously exploiting a loophole. It was intended to put a stop to it. It did. It may have imperfections, but the situation that led to to it was far more imperfect. People don't revolt that easily; they have to be shoved pretty hard. A better law might have been just to require a 2/3 vote for ANY AND ALL TAX AND FEE increases. Would that receive your approval? But the way the pols were going 30 years ago, they were begging for it and they got it. these people use services galore and have no problem taxing others while they take a free ride. Uh, as I have REPEATEDLY pointed out, that is BS. When are you going to deal with that? They still get hit with lots of other taxes. Get off your hobby horse and look at reality. I can't do anything about prisons, but if I as a taxpayer and my young employees were forced to pay "prison taxes" while the deadbeat california residents from 30 years ago paid nothing, I'd feel the same way about that tax if it existed. I'd be for abolishing it. Cut the crap. Prisons were built with general revenue bonds which are paid off by income and sales taxes and various fees. Everybody gets hit by those.