To: Neocon who wrote (425348 ) 7/10/2003 5:29:58 PM From: DuckTapeSunroof Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 Thanks, I see my memory was not so far off after all. Some of the things we failed to properly consider in those times of an all-encompassing Cold War threat (aside from my previous mentions of relative economics, natural human preference for freedom [and wealth, see again my first observation] and that bullies can come in any stripe) were: That the era of nation states had not ended (people were still feeling patriotic towards their nation, their ethnic groups, etc.) Ho was a 'national hero' because of his spirited resistence to the Japanese invaders in WW II. (My evidence for this is that the US felt compelled to call off the UN supervised election in Vietnam... because we were certain Ho would win in a landslide. We then saw to the installation of our own puppet in the South....) Colonialism, though, was much on the 'outs' in Asia, and in other parts of the developing world post WW II... and France's efforts to restore it's colonial mandate in Vietnam (by spending OUR MARSHALL PROGRAM GRANTS THERE! While Germany more productively deployed theirs rebuilding their destroyed industrial infrastructure, LOL :( was going up against the stronger social trend of nationalism. (Later still, this expression of national/ethnic cohesion would surprise us again [<G> and our poor understanding of historical facts would add to this surprise] as the nationstate of Vietnam - which had strongly, and usually failingly, resisted the periodic invasions from China over a thousand years of recorded history... once again fought against China (this time, to our befuddlement, their 'Socialist Brother China', LOL) when China attacked yet again. So much for ideology being stronger than blood... so much for the 'International Communist Brotherhood' and... the 'Domino Theory'.