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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (104610)	7/10/2003 8:59:09 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<Care to back up this assertion with some data?> The U.S. has arrested, and still holds, thousands, for "sedition", "terrorism", being a member of a suspect "profiled" group, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You should know by now, I am always willing and able, to back up my unpopular opinions, with lots of inconvenient facts. You can find all the evidence needed, if you care to, here: amnestyusa.org Excerpts: 9 June 2003 Today marks a full year in which Jose Padilla, a US citizen, has been held incommunicado in military custody in the USA as "enemy combatant" without charge, trial or access to his lawyer or family. After September 11, hundreds of Muslim and Arab men were denied attorneys, contact with their families, even daylight in the name of national security - and in the end, not one was charged with anything related to the attacks on the United States themselves. ...Javaid Iqbal, who was deported to Pakistan later that month (3/03) after spending more than 15 months in detention. Iqbal told AI that he was never informed of his right to an attorney and that, when he did secure one two months later, facility officials repeatedly told the attorney that Iqbal was not there. Iqbal also said that guards repeatedly threw him face first into his cell wall and asked "How would you like to die?" He told Amnesty International that on one occasion he was assaulted by guards who strip searched him and then shackled and beat him. Responding to Amnesty International's concern on Guantánamo in its annual report, White House spokesperson Ari Fleischer said yesterday: "I just dismiss that as without merit". Continuing the pattern of official contempt for the presumption of innocence, Mr Fleisher referred to the uncharged, untried, unrepresented Guantánamo detainees as "terrorists" and "very dangerous people". (I could go on and on and on, the examples are innumerable, the evidence easy to find, for those who are willing to see it.) Oh, and I'm still waiting for the results of the U.S. Army investigation, into those deaths of detainees at Bagram Air Base. You remember, the ones who died from "trauma caused by blunt instruments" while in U.S. custody?