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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105097)	7/13/2003 12:40:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

British intelligence still believes that Iraq was seeking to purchase Uranium from Nigeria? Niger, actually, and several other African countries, I don't remember which.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105097)	7/13/2003 3:25:46 PM
From: GST	Respond to of 281500

Blair is fighting for political survival -- he certainly does not want to be branded a "liar" -- the British don't like liars very much. BTW, how are we doing with those trucks -- the mobile balloon inflators, oh sorry, I should have said "bio-weapons labs"? How are we doing with those tubes designed for, well whatever. And all those other WMDs that were just "everywhere" -- not to mention the ones that could be deployed in 45 minutes? There have been so many "announcements", we should have a ton of substantial concrete evidence by now -- care to point to any of it? Or is Bush just a political front man for people with a global military agenda completely unrelated to WMD -- no, that just could not be the case, could it Hawk. It is all about those evil WMD that we know "for a fact" that Saddam had and was preparing to use on us.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105097)	7/13/2003 8:33:00 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<The British STILL ASSERT that their intelligence is accurate.> Sure. Based on super-duper-secret evidence, so secret they didn't share it with anybody, not even the CIA. And they want us all to trust them and drop the issue. Sure. What we're seeing here is a collapsing coverup. When the plotters can't maintain their cover story, they start blaming each other, and the whole thing falls apart. Truth will out.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105097)	7/13/2003 11:20:54 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

CIA Got Uranium Reference Cut in Oct. Why Bush Cited It In Jan. Is Unclear By Walter Pincus and Mike Allen Washington Post Sunday, July 13, 2003 CIA Director George J. Tenet successfully intervened with White House officials to have a reference to Iraq seeking uranium from Niger removed from a presidential speech last October, three months before a less specific reference to the same intelligence appeared in the State of the Union address, according to senior administration officials. Tenet argued personally to White House officials, including deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley, that the allegation should not be used because it came from only a single source, according to one senior official. Another senior official with knowledge of the intelligence said the CIA had doubts about the accuracy of the documents underlying the allegation, which months later turned out to be forged... Administration sources said White House officials, particularly those in the office of Vice President Cheney, insisted on including Hussein's quest for a nuclear weapon as a prominent part of their public case for war in Iraq. Cheney had made the potential threat of Hussein having a nuclear weapon a central theme of his August 2002 speeches that began the public buildup toward war with Baghdad... By January, when conversations took place with CIA personnel over what could be in the president's State of the Union speech, White House officials again sought to use the Niger reference since it still was in the NIE. "We followed the NIE and hoped there was more intelligence to support it," a senior administration official said yesterday. When told there was nothing new, White House officials backed off, and as a result "seeking uranium from Niger was never in drafts," he said. washingtonpost.com My comment: There aren't very many people who can overrule the CIA director. Especially when the topic is the reliability of a piece of intelligence data. It's a short list, of people who have that much clout. Looks like it was Cheney who insisted on including the Chad uranium story in Bush's speeach, over Tenet's repeated personal objections. Looks to me like the wrong person took the blame for it. And I'm beginning to wonder why the Brits aren't smoothing the troubled waters for Bush.