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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (427763)7/16/2003 11:45:40 AM
From: gerard mangiardi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
there were 243 Marines killed in the bombing of a barrack in Lebanon in 83, did we leave the Middle East?

Well we sure left Lebanon to sink into chaos. Think that was Reagan but i'm not sure.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (427763)7/16/2003 11:46:47 AM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
your argument is the same tired old BS. 'why don't they send their children'...'easy to send someone else'..

No one is saying Iraq is easy. Being away from family anywhere is not easy. Not in Germany, not in Kosovo, not in Korea, and certainly not in hotter-n-hell Iraq where soldiers are targets for terrorists. THIS IS WAR, grow up. Soldiers are in the military for a reason.

My point was soldiers are getting shot at and bombed and killed all over the world, and the USA does not and can not pull out of everywhere.

Get off your high horse, pinhead. You are the same as me, sitting at your computer.

Of course troops want to come home...we want them to come home. Why not thank the clinton/gore regime for decimating the military on the 90s? They had a big hand in the reason there are not replacement troops readily available to rotate them in and out.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (427763)7/16/2003 11:47:09 AM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Posted on Tue, Jul. 15, 2003

CIA: Assessment of Syria's WMD exaggerated

By WARREN P. STROBEL and JONATHAN S. LANDAY
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - In a new dispute over interpreting intelligence data, the CIA and other agencies objected vigorously
to a Bush administration assessment of the threat of Syria's weapons of mass destruction that was to be presented
Tuesday on Capitol Hill.

After the objections, the planned testimony by Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton, a leading administration hawk,
was delayed until September.


U.S. officials told Knight Ridder that Bolton was prepared to tell members of a House of Representatives International
Relations subcommittee that Syria's development of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons had progressed to such a
point that they posed a threat to stability in the region.

The CIA and other intelligence agencies said that assessment was exaggerated.

Syria has come under increasing U.S. pressure during and after the Iraq war for allegedly giving refuge to members of
Saddam Hussein's regime, allowing foreign fighters to cross into Iraq to attack U.S. troops and for backing Palestinian
militant groups that were conducting terrorist strikes on Israel. After Saddam's government fell, some Bush aides hinted
that the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus might be the next U.S. target.

The objections by the intelligence community come as the Bush administration is defending itself over complaints that it
embellished intelligence secrets to justify the war against Iraq.

Bolton's planned remarks caused a "revolt" among intelligence experts who thought they inflated the progress Syria
has made in its weapons programs, said a U.S. official who isn't from the CIA, but was involved in the dispute.


He and other officials who provided similar accounts spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the issue's
sensitivity and because they aren't authorized government spokesmen.

The CIA's objections and comments alone ran to 35 to 40 pages, the official said.

Officials declined to provide more details of the disputes over the testimony, some of which was secret and scheduled to
be delivered in closed session. The House panel is considering a bill that would toughen trade and diplomatic sanctions
against Syria, which is on the U.S. list of terrorist-sponsoring nations.

Officials provided conflicting explanations of why the hearing was canceled.

A Bolton aide said it was because of a scheduling conflict - Bolton was called to a White House meeting Tuesday
afternoon - and that the hearing had been reset for September. Others said it was because the bitter dispute couldn't
be immediately resolved.
(AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA......Just like BUSH HAD TO GO TO AFRICA TO ADMIT HIS LIES)

A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

But other officials in the executive branch and on Capitol Hill said the White House Office of Management and Budget,
which coordinates government officials' public statements, wouldn't give final approval to the planned testimony.

The conflict appears to illustrate how battles over prewar intelligence on Iraq have spread to other issues and have
heightened sensitivity among Bush aides about public descriptions of threats to the United States.

The White House acknowledged last week that it shouldn't have included in President Bush's January State of the Union
address a dramatic contention that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium for nuclear weapons in
Africa. Other administration claims about Iraq's banned weapons program and alleged ties to the al-Qaida terrorist
network are now in question.

Several officials said another reason for the cancellation of Bolton's testimony was that he might have been subjected
to sharp questioning about Iraq intelligence, a controversy the White House is trying to lay to rest.

There is more attention to "dotting I's and crossing T's," said a State Department official, adding that Bolton's draft
statement was the subject of "extensive edits."

Bolton set off a controversy in May 2002 when he asserted in a speech that Cuba has a biological warfare program. A
State Department intelligence expert, Christian Westermann, recently told a closed-door Senate Intelligence Committee
hearing that available intelligence data don't support that assertion, U.S. officials have said.


The first U.S. official said that after months of complaining about pressure to skew their analyses, rank-and-file
intelligence officials "have become emboldened" by the recent public debate over Iraq.

"People are fed up," he said.

Another official confirmed that the CIA had "a good deal of concern" over the classified portion of Bolton's testimony.

In speeches and congressional testimony over the past year, Bolton has identified Syria among a handful of countries
whose alleged pursuit of biological and chemical weapons makes them threats to international stability. His
assessments attached more gravity to the danger that Syria poses than did a declassified U.S. intelligence assessment
that covered the first six months of 2002.

In testimony in June before the House International Relations Committee, Bolton said U.S. officials are "looking at Syria's
nuclear program with growing concern and continue to monitor it for any signs of nuclear weapons intent."

A CIA report submitted to Congress in April contained more cautionary language. Noting that Syria and Russia have
reached preliminary agreement on civilian nuclear cooperation, the CIA report said only, "In principal, broader access to
Russian expertise provides opportunities for Syria to expand its indigenous capabilities, should it decide to pursue
nuclear weapons."

In his June testimony, Bolton asserted that U.S. officials "know that Syria is pursuing the development of biological
weapons." The CIA report said only that it's "highly probable that Syria is also continuing to develop an offensive BW
(biological weapons) capability."

Finally, Bolton told the congressional committee that "North Korean entities have been involved in aiding Syria's ballistic
missile development." The CIA reported that Syria was trying to build Scud-C ballistic missiles "probably with North
Korean assistance."

CIA Director George Tenet, in an annual worldwide assessment of threats against the United States that he presented
to Congress in February, referred to Syria by name only once, and that was in connection with its support for
Palestinian extremist groups.