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To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/18/2003 3:19:14 PM
From: Anthony@Pacific	Respond to of 12465

thanks for your opinion I'll just add I agree and disagree with certain portions of it. Cheers

To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/18/2003 3:25:22 PM
From: Bear Down	Respond to of 12465

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To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/18/2003 6:34:27 PM
From: Pluvia	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12465

ok, i was wrong. what will REALLY be funny at this trial, will be breen trying to make the case that everything tony said WAS credible... while tony tries to prove everything he said was NOT credible... i think that's known as ironical... ahhhhh... the haaaaaarraaaaa... bring in david lynch, a circus on acid and some shakespeare for drama... and this one could be a friggin movie... question is, who in the circus plays breen?

To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/19/2003 1:26:23 PM
From: StockDung	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12465

It will be Interesting how the DOJ translates Anthoniy's Ebonic Wall Street Chat Room Vocabulary cal.org 1. Turd Muncher: Contrary to popular befief this is not one that munches Turd but rather a company or poster that promotes or touts over valued or fraudulent stocks. Not to be confused with stillborn turd which is company which should have never been brought public to begin with 2."Booger smeared and zit covered teens delivering 7-11 food right to your door? Wow, what a great deal." Message 11827447 First appeared on the Peapod thread. Means companys stock price is going to zero. Also Peapod does not mean Pee In a Pod. 3. Turbo Pig; See Turbodyne. Subject 6639 4. Turd Nugget:: Something a Turd Munches munches on. 5. MCBRIBE: Has nothing to do with MacDonalds. See Seview Teschnologies thread Message 15527672 6.Esteemed scumsucking pig herd driver : CEO of a company whos company is a total fraud 7. TokyoJoe Wannabe: Poster that wants to promote fraud on Chat Room message boards 8. One Big Scam? CTRN, ECTS, IVHD, SMEK & MALB :Contrary to pupular belief was started by internet hero's who stamped on a few crooks. Some of the crooks excaped and are involved in scammy stocks to this very same day.see: One Big Scam THREAD REVISITED ? CTRN, ECTS, IVHD, SMEK & MALB Message 18099366 also refers to a bunch os stocks promoted by CRIMMS 9: CRIMMS: One who promotes stocks in a criminal manner. Could be a criminal or fellon but not nessasary. (See Goelo sec.gov ) 10. Bunch of CRIMMS: More that one CRIMM but less than 10. Over 10 would be a Whole Crew of CRIMMS (See Goelo sec.gov ) Truthseeker is a Forensic Internet Researcher and also an expert in Wallstreet Internet Chat Room Ebonics. If you have a Ebonic Wall Street Chat Room Term you would like to share please post it. The Truthseeker

To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/19/2003 10:50:16 PM
From: Anthony@Pacific	Respond to of 12465

siliconinvestor.com Have I ever denied this

To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/21/2003 1:03:32 PM
From: CountofMoneyCristo	Respond to of 12465

Interesting post. Now I am not going to go into any specifics about Tony's case because I don't have all the facts, and will leave it to the courts to hopefully find out exactly what happened, but I do have a question for you: How can you be so sure that "everyone" on any site would know all the facts about anyone? My case is a good example of that. Tell me how anyone would ever know that brokers were kicking back commissions to sites so that they would make completely worthless recommendations in order to rocket commissions? How would an average trader not a broker have any idea this was going on? How could they possibly know? The only reason it ever came out is because one of the defendants made the serious blunder of hiring an honest person to be an analyst, thinking everyone was dirty just like he and his cronies. I know there are many professionals of long standing in the industry here at SI, and have been for many years, since its inception more than likely, and perhaps they know what kinds of things go on in back offices, away from the public eye, but to say that most people here would know "everything" to me is a major presumption. That's the problem about abuses via the Internet: they are so easy to perpetrate. Now I see Tony's case and I do have this observation: he's been indicted, but I don't see people like TokyoJoe or many others who were accused by SEC of front-running and market manip being indicted. Why not? Maybe it's time they were. How about the brokerage firms who affected not a few dozen traders but THOUSANDS, reaping hundreds of millions in illicit gains? Why aren't THEY indicted? Maybe one day they will. The way things are going in my case, the defendants are so desperate to avoid the civil courts that they may very well land before the criminal courts before it's all over. It's time that the major players are nailed in Court - not those merely at the periphery. A good place to start is with Philip Berber (CyberTrader) and Gerald Putnam (Terra Nova).

To: Pluvia who wrote (4928)	7/21/2003 1:14:23 PM
From: CountofMoneyCristo	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 12465

Here's one example. I wonder if the majority of SI have any idea how many prominent DT brokerage firms and sites traded against their own clients through offshore banking havens, through shell companies, or that your private, confidential trade records and positions were shared between the brokers and sites to trade directly against you. Example: call a stock like SDLI c. 2000 at 300 during lunch, your 500 clients buy, it artificially spikes to 310+. Meanwhile, you are keeping tabs on how many clients bought the phony rec, on the phone with the brokers all along. You short blocks of 5k shares into the spike, then walk away from the rec. Do this once or twice a day for 2-3 years and walk away with millions - all stashed offshore. I learned about this and it is amazing, how widespread this has been. SEC now knows about it too. An attorney I talked to recently said if this is proven people are going to prison. It's time they did. Not just some slap on the wrist fine but prison time. In the end, what the brokers tried to use against me, trying to intimidate me, the IRS, may very well prove their final undoing. You better believe taxes were not paid on these illicit tens of millions. When that comes out, proving every last detail of securities fraud won't be a requirement - just that these crooks didn't pay a cent in taxes on gains illegally salted away offshore. Maybe they think that these havens will protect their secrecy, but if they've been following developments in the international banking arena lately they might come to realize that offshore banking secrecy's days are numbered. Just look at all the Visa, MC and AMEX accounts the Swiss just handed over to IRS. Take a close look at new regulations being handed down against the Caribbean islands, with the stick that if they don't open the books, they can forget international development financing.