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To: GST who wrote (106475)	7/19/2003 3:40:28 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Yes, i'm agreeing with you on this ... though i wasn't impressed with the way the french handled all of that, and thoroughly opposed to at least one of the statements our prime ministre made at the time ... but overall, yes exactly, the greater evil of the whole Iraq 'war' was the tendency of current US admin to set themselves up as dictators It was your wording with which i was taking exception, the last line - 'It was a matter of US policy that turned the world against us.' - #reply-19125688 I have most certainly not turned against you, i see you here making sensible statements on the matter .... it's a mistake i think to identify ourselves overly with our national governments du jour, as if we were but cogs in their machinery ..... we are not, we are human beings with free will and the right, nay the duty, to figure out for ourselves who are the terrorists most damaging to our interests ... started typing a thing on canadian defense policy, but have to go now ... later .... briefly, many of us here would like to see the g.w.n. defense budget doubled or tripled, the risk however is that a force with increased effectiveness would attract more coercion out of DC neocons, they would demand the power to specify exactly where and when and how it would be used ..... later .... cheers

To: GST who wrote (106475)	7/19/2003 3:42:01 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

"I am saying that the US alienated its allies by adopting a policy that was impossible for any other country to support --a policy of "regime change"." Why is it impossible for them to accept regime change as a general policy in certain cases eg. milosevec? If good guys knocked off NK nutcase, would any tears be shed? Perhaps it has more to do with the extreme military power advantage the US has over all nations that is at the crux of it. I, for one, would applaud and EU with Teeth. In that sense i support the french view of several points of power--US, EU, China, Russia etc. I, for one, am uncomfortable with new world order that give US tremendous responsibilities with little world support. We may be the military superpower of the world but that does not make us any smarter than other serious nations. If there were more democracies with a military component, it might me a better situation. I would like to hear the reply of neocons here as well as war opponents. Sorry for the rant--just thinking outloud on a wonderful saturday afternoon in NJ. mike