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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106553)	7/19/2003 11:34:23 PM
From: Graystone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"highly dubious" or doctored intelligence We will see, Mr. Blair keeps insisting his Nigerian Scam Letter is the real thing, he did so again in addressing Congress. Do you believe that there will be any "good" intelligence that supports Mr. Blair or Mr. Bush, after all the finger pointing and blaming is over the American public is left with a CIA that deserves to be less than credible. This damage will exist long after Mr Bush is gone, the CIA has admitted that they were incapable of distinguishing a very bad fake, the FBI claims they will clear this all up, heheheh. Do you think Europe and the United States are allies, as Mr. Blair seems to think.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106553)	7/19/2003 11:41:26 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Oh right, silly me, forgot for a moment that It's Always The Beeb's Fault, nach Nadine It's abundantly clear why you don't like the BBC, it's because they neglect to forget, like you want them to forget, that your Judenstaat is being set up on arab lands .... you would like them to inculcate us like you do, spouting over and over again, 'the Arabs invaded', but they are not doing so, and don't give any appearance of being about to do so, and even if they did we would still remember the actual facts on the ground as the contrary to your scenario, so really i don't think you're going to get far with this tack, but hey, keep trying

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106553)	7/20/2003 12:33:34 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 281500

"....to what extent did an irresponsible and thoroughly unprofessional BBC reporter misrepresent..." The BEEB misrepresenting something? Come on! The only media outlet with more journalistic integrity is the NYT for goodness sakes. <g>

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106553)	7/20/2003 12:26:37 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> did an irresponsible and thoroughly unprofessional BBC reporter misrepresent both Kelly and his statements in order to make a really sexy charge against the government, then leave Kelly holding the bag for the article?<< I agree with you. Shortly before his death (immediately before, probably) Kelly said that he did not think he was the source (or sole source) for the BBC allegation that the dossier was "sexed up" because that's not what he said. At the time the BBC was refusing to admit that Kelly was the source. Now they say he was. I expect that he knew his career with the government was finished. Caught between two extremely powerful forces, he was going to take the fall. Is the the fault of the BBC for "sexing up" what Kelly told them? Yes. Was the Blair government going to come down on him like a ton of bricks? Yes. I do find it amusing that the BBC is casting the blame on Kelly now that he can't defend himself. Convenient. Or maybe there is a tape recording they'd like to share? That should clear it up.