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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106710)	7/20/2003 6:11:16 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Iran missile move alarms Israel Iran says its missiles are meant purely as a deterrent Iran has brought into service a new ballistic missile that is capable of hitting Israel. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei attended a televised ceremony to hand over to the armed forces the Shahab-3 missile which has a range of 1,300 kilometres (800 miles). "Today our people and our armed forces are ready to defend their goals anywhere," Mr Khamenei was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency. Israel and the United States - which both accuse Iran of trying to develop nuclear weapons - have expressed grave concerns over the latest developments. This divine force has answered all threats Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Iran is also under growing pressure from the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, to sign the so-called additional protocol to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, allowing tighter inspections of its nuclear facilities. Iran has repeatedly denied the charges, insisting that its missile programme is purely meant as a deterrent. 'Ready to defend' Iranian television showed Mr Khamenei, flanked by officers and other clerics, and three of the Shahab-3 rockets on what appeared to be mobile launchers. "This divine force has answered all threats," Mr Khamenei was quoted as saying in front of about 1,000 troops in ceremonial dress. Iranian television also reported that the Revolutionary Guards - who have their own air force - were given some new but unidentified attack and transport helicopters as well as an undisclosed number of Russian-built Sukhoi-25 jets. The head of the Revolutionary Guards, Yahya Rahim-Safavi, was quoted as saying in his speech during the ceremony that his force was now "ready to defend Iran against any threat". 'Shooting star' The surface-to-surface missile was first tested in 1998. It was handed over to the armed forces after the final test was conducted earlier this month. The Shahab-3 could also reach eastern Turkey and Pakistan. In Farsi, Shahab means "meteor" or "shooting star". Iran launched an arms development programme after its 1980-88 war with Iraq, following a US weapons embargo. Since 1992, Iran has announced the production of missiles, a fighter plane, tanks and armoured personnel vehicles. news.bbc.co.uk M

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106710)	7/20/2003 6:29:18 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There was never honest debate from Washington in re Iraq, not with the independent democracies there wasn't, they took strictly the our way or the highway approach, they listened to nothing, they offered only threats and bribes, they had their own specific little plan of attack worked out, they were completely inflexible, they moved those troops into Kuwait and then used their presence there against the summer weather coming on as justification for timing of the attack There was no genuine discussion with allies, ever ..... we on the net are not foreign offices relating our nations to the rest, we are just a bunch of doofi typing at each other ..... anything internal to the US, including speeches in the congress there, falls into the same category - essentially irrelevant to affairs between nations, beyond the degree to which it encourages cooperation, or as recently with Iraq, discourages cooperation .... the bloodlust euphoria among US nationals was quite successfully generated by the war marketeers in this case, that's about all you can say for such 'discussion' as took place, and it had deleterious effect in the wider world Without a structure in which nations can talk openly with one another, treat each other as valid to the point where they listen to each other, you won't have effective international cooperation ..... you'll just have the current situation ad infinitum - the big dog barking orders at the rest ....... might-makes-right may work for you temporarily, but you won't build a team with that attitude

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (106710)	7/20/2003 6:33:06 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

" I remember Congress and the mass media talking about nothing but "......... Aw..that memory thing again...... The reality is that only when a few daring soles of notoriety came forward and actually questioned this administration publicly, did A-N-Y..... D-I-S-C-U-S-S-I-O-N begin.That was about at this time last year. And they were condemned as " Anti- American , non-patriotic , traitorous people with an agenda ".....or worse still, as in Scott Ritter's Case , a Pro Saddam type trying to undermine the security of the US Of A. Time to refresh your memory Nadine? Yes..I think so. I could start by posting about fifty references to that which I speak,but I have no intention on wasting a nice day re-educating those who's memory only retains that which supports their case/cause. Have a nice day Nadine Sincerely, KC@HARD-DRIVE_FULL-OF-MEMORIES.CA