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To: GST who wrote (106757)	7/20/2003 11:04:09 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

However North Korea has threatened a number of countries with nuclear attack - including Japan, South Korea, and Australia in addition to the US: North Korea threatens Japan JAPAN should remember that it is "within striking distance" of North Korean weapons amid heightened calls in Tokyo to contain North Korea, the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) has warned. The Stalinist state's official mouthpiece accused Japan of being emboldened by the US-led invasion of Iraq in its ambition to remilitarise. "Japan should behave with discretion, clearly mindful that it is also within the striking range of the DPRK (North Korea)," KCNA said in a dispatch monitored here. "Japan is turning to the right and is getting militarised at such a rapid tempo that the call for destroying the DPRK, a legitimate sovereign state, is heard in the Diet (Japanese parliament). This is a clear indication of the gravity of the situation. "The Japanese reactionaries seem to have lost their reason under the impact of the Iraqi war launched by their master," KCNA said in a reference to the United States which Japan has backed over going to war. .... theadvertiser.news.com.au North Korea threatens nuclear strike against US February 7 2003 By Shane Green Tokyo North Korea is reactivating nuclear facilities and has declared its right to make a pre-emptive strike against the United States, as it emerged that Australian forces could be involved in any war on the Korean peninsula. In a move described by the US as dangerous, Pyongyang announced it would restart its reactor at Yongbyon, which is capable of producing plutonium for nuclear weapons. The move appears to be a carefully timed act of brinkmanship which has plunged the Korean peninsula into its worst nuclear crisis in nearly a decade. The bankrupt Stalinist regime announced the move just hours before US Secretary of State Colin Powell briefed the United Nations Security Council on Iraq. guardian.co.uk North Korea threatens South with 'unspeakable disaster' Copyright © 2003 Nando Media Copyright © 2003 AP Online By SOO-JEONG LEE, Associated Press SEOUL, South Korea (May 20, 9:53 a.m. ADT) - North Korea condemned a recent summit between President Bush and South Korea's president, and warned Tuesday of an "unspeakable disaster" for the South if it confronts the communist state over its nuclear weapons programs. adn.com North Korea threatens Australia Tuesday 15 July 2003, 10:31 AM Australian could face a nuclear attack from North Korea if it got involved in an international force to stop ships carrying weapons of mass destruction, an unofficial spokesman for the North Korean government has warned. Australia has agreed to take part in maritime exercises which may lead to the establishment of an international operation to stop the weapons trade by counties such as North Korea. Kim Myong-Chol from the Centre for Korean-American Peace said if North Korean ships were stopped at sea, North Korea could turn its nuclear arsenal on Australia. Mr Myong-Chol said North Korea had reprocessed 8,000 nuclear fuel rods at the Yongbyon nuclear facility, and had nuclear missiles pointed at the United States. He said North Korea also had missiles capable of hitting Australia. theage.com.au Mb>Pyongyang: We'll put a torch to New York By Shane Green, Herald Correspondent in Tokyo March 8 2003 North Korea would launch a ballistic missile attack on the United States if Washington made a pre-emptive strike against the communist state's nuclear facility, the man described as Pyongyang's "unofficial spokesman" claimed yesterday. Kim Myong-chol, who has links to the Stalinist regime, told reporters in Tokyo that a US strike on the nuclear facility at Yongbyon "means nuclear war". "If American forces carry out a pre-emptive strike on the Yongbyon facility, North Korea will immediately target, carry the war to the US mainland," he said, adding that New York, Washington and Chicago would be "aflame". ... smh.com.au

To: GST who wrote (106757)	7/21/2003 3:02:24 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

What will secret US-NK talks produce, that multi-lateral talks cannot, this is the thing ... nothing useful, i suspect .... you are completely correct in pointing out that having an actor who thinks he's a smalltown sheriff in a John Wayne movie dick around with phrases like 'axis of evil' and 'bring em on' et cetera is not real bright ... fully agreed as far as that goes .... however, from there to preferring secret talks versus open discussion among all concerned parties, this is a leap i cannot take, just don't think it logical We can't forget that on the other side here, there is no greater brilliance, no more legitimacy than with the bushistas ... the NK regime was even less genuinely elected than was the PNAC, they have a populace far more subject to their whim, they have exhibited fully as much megalomania and juvenile delinquency as have the folks with whom they demand this one-on-one ..... me, i say open it up, let's hope the japanese or the chinese or the south koreans can send an adult to the table Sometimes good things happen for the most wrong of reasons, just like bad things are caused by the most righteous of actions, it's the Law of Unintended Consequences .... so however cynically convenient this multi-lateral position is for the neocons, let them take it, i say, do not discourage them ... and remember it well, it is a precedent Here is an alternative - have the neocons say fine, alright, we'll have one-on-one talks ... as long as we do it in public posts, on the internet ... getting all their verbiage on-record and time-stamped, that oughta smarten em both up, eh GST, some of the back-and-forth between you and Hawk got a little carried away this evening ... i haven't caught up with all, just noticed some stuff that i don't think our thread founder FaultLine, who is at this time WIA and in hospital, would approve of ..... not that i'm any choirboy myself, in fact i feel twinges of guilt in this regard .... so now i am laying some of it on you and Hawk, lol ..... but you know what i mean, doncha ... cheers