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To: tonka552000 who wrote (22948)7/22/2003 5:17:12 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Many people get hot under the collar and say truly outrageous things on these boards. I share your hope that he just needed to blow off some steam.



To: tonka552000 who wrote (22948)7/22/2003 8:21:06 PM
From: Proud Deplorable  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
tonka
NO WAY ! I'm not apologising for anything. My views on war are unrelated to my experience or lack of same regarding economic issues.

Have a look at your comment again:
"what I respect most is loyalty and character...let's see if he shows up and apologizes to those serving (they and their commanders are following orders from people who never served)"

This is PRECISELY the point I was trying to make. When WW2 was over most of the Nazis used "we were only following orders" as their excuse for their crimes. If Bush wanted Saddams head, and rightly so, he didn't need to destroy the place in the process. The USA has the best intelligence in the world, or so they claim AND THEY COULDN'T FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE SADDAM OUT FOR 13 YEARS ? Plain and simply Bush is a mass murderer as bad as Saddam. It was all so illegal, unnecessary, cruel, inhumane and based on lies and propaganda.

So if my views aren't popular and I'm not respected for them, SO WHAT ? I'm not alone and if I were I still wouldn't think any different.

Hey folks, this is what I believe when it comes to soldiers:

Universal Soldier
Donovan

He's five foot two
And he's six feet four
He fights with missiles
And with spears
He's all of thirty one
And he's only seventeen
He's been a soldier
For a thousand years

He's a Catholic, a Hindu
An atheist, a Jain
A Buddist and a Baptist and a Jew
And he knows he shouldn't kill
And he knows he always will
Kill you for me, my friend
And me for you

And he's fighting for Canada
He's fighting for France
He's fighting for the U.S.A.
And he's fighting for the Russians
And he's fighting for Japan
And he thinks we'll put
And end to war this way

And he's fighting for democracy
He's fighting for the Reds
He says it's for the peace of all
He's the one who must decide
Who's to live and who's to die
And he never see the writing on the wall

But without him how would Hitler
Have condemned him at ...
Without him
Caesar would've stood alone
He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war
And without him
All this killing can't go on

He's the universal soldier
And he really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from here and there
And you and me
And brothers can't you see
This is not the way
We put the end to war