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To: i-node who wrote (172365)	7/23/2003 10:07:50 AM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573214

Ritter's position in 1998, when the inspectors were denied access, was totally at odds with his position now. Right..and bush's assertions only a few months ago are at odds with the truth alltogether. Point is that Ritter told us over and over again pre-invasion that there were no WMDs anymore...and his version is proving right. That has not been determined. No...it has been determined. No WMDs, no AlQueda links, no drones, and no scuds, etc....David Kay has a montain of paperwork he'll never be able to package into a credible story. It is not a lie and if you were to re-read the news accounts of the last year you would recognize that essential aspects of the inspection (such as removal of personnel from the country) were not allowed. You twist the facts again and evidence does not support your position. Scientists then refused to leave the country. Scientists today are free to talk and we have nothing....but a bucket of parts buried in someone's backyard for 10 years. Give me a lathe, a good machinist and two weeks. Is it that easy to build a nuke program and that easy to deceive the American people? You don't like Bush so you color the facts as required to support your criticism. True...I don't like bush, but it's not irrational, unfounded dislike. I don't like his foreign policies, his unilateralism, his deceipt on Iraq, dishonesty in Afghanistan, his tax policies, his record on the environment, and I certainly don't like the American image he has projected to the world....my dislike is rooted in tangibles. Al

To: i-node who wrote (172365)	7/23/2003 10:47:13 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573214

That has not been determined. It is clear that Dr. David Kay has significant news concerning WMD. Let's see what that news turns out to be. Link please.

To: i-node who wrote (172365)	7/23/2003 11:01:12 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573214

Bush Proclaims End to Saddam's Regime Wednesday July 23, 2003 3:49 PM By TOM RAUM Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush on Wednesday hailed the deaths of Saddam Hussein's two sons as the clearest sign yet that ``the former regime is gone and will not be coming back.'' Bush called Odai and Qusai Hussein, who were both killed on Tuesday during a firefight with U.S. forces, ``two of the regime's chief henchmen ... responsible for torture, maiming and murder of countless Iraqis.'' Still, in a Rose Garden appearance with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. occupation governor for Iraq, Bush said that ``a few remaining holdouts'' loyal to Saddam's government are complicating efforts to stabilize Iraq and advance freedom. ``These killers are the enemies of Iraq's people. They operate mainly in a few areas of the country. And wherever they operate, they're being hunted and they will be defeated,'' Bush said in brief remarks. He did not respond to questions shouted by reporters. Even as officials confirmed that Saddam's two sons were killed Tuesday in a firefight with U.S. troops, a soldier with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment died when his convoy driving between Balad and Ar Ramadi was ambushed and two more were killed Wednesday in separate attacks on convoys. The president sought to present a progress report on Iraq since he declared major combat over nearly three months ago. ``We are determined to help build a free and sovereign democratic nation,'' he said. While the White House was exhibiting obvious pleasure in deaths of the two Saddam sons, questions continued to dog the administration over the president's use of discredited intelligence to bolster his case for war with Iraq. On Tuesday, the top aide to National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice took the blame for allowing a tainted report suggesting Iraq was trying to buy uranium in Africa to find its way into Bush's January State of the Union address. Deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley said two CIA memos and a call from CIA Director George Tenet had persuaded him to take a similar passage out of a presidential speech in October - and that he should have done likewise when it turned up again in State of the Union drafts. ``We have made progress, steady progress, in restoring hope in a nation beaten down by decades of tyranny,'' Bush said. He said that 19 nations were providing more than 13,000 troops ``to help stabilize Iraq'' and that additional help ``will soon arrive.'' ``More than two dozen nations have pledged funds that will go directly toward relief and reconstruction efforts. Every day we're renovating schools for the new school year. We're restoring the damaged water, electrical and communication systems. And when we introduce a new Iraqi currency later this year, it will be the first time in 12 years that the whole country is using the same currency,'' Bush said. And, with the deaths of Odai and Qusai Hussein, ``Now, more than ever, all Iraqis can know that the former regime is gone and will not be coming back,'' the president added. ``Rebuilding Iraq will require a sustained commitment. America and our partners kept our promise to remove the dictator and the threat he posed - not only to the Iraqi people but to the world,'' he added. Before walking out into the Rose Garden, Bush convened an informal gathering of his war council in the Oval Office. Bush aides said the president was upset by Hadley's failure to come forward with the CIA objections, but turned down what amounted to an offer by Hadley to resign. Bush ``has full confidence'' in his national security team, including Hadley and Tenet, White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. ``The process failed,'' Bartlett said. It came as the White House pressed a full-scale damage control effort in an attempt to divert attention away from Bush's State of the Union comments on Iraq and Africa. <font color=red>But critics suggested the administration's campaign to come clean has raised more questions than it has answered.<font color=black> And Democrats were quick to criticize Bush over the latest twist in the saga, which earlier this month saw Tenet offer a public apology for not flagging the Iraq-Africa sentence when the CIA reviewed a draft of Bush's Jan. 28 State of the Union address. In his State of the Union address, Bush said: ``The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.'' Those 16 words have come back to haunt him as details surfaced suggesting that U.S. intelligence agencies did not agree with the British assessment. White House officials have said the language never should have made it into Bush's speech. But Bush himself has sidestepped the question of whether he takes personal responsibility for the words, saying only that he takes personal responsibility for his decisions to commit U.S. forces to topple Saddam's regime. Hadley, in a rare hour-long, on-the-record session with reporters, said he had received two memos from the CIA and a phone call from Tenet raising objections to a section in a speech Bush was to give in Cincinnati on Oct. 7. As a result, he had the statement - an allegation that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium ore in Africa to use in building nuclear weapons - removed from the draft. But he suggested the entire episode slipped his mind when Bush's State of the Union speech was being vetted. The memos, dated Oct. 5 and Oct. 7, were discovered over the weekend. Both were addressed to Hadley and to presidential speechwriter Michael Gerson. Gerson ``had no recollections'' of details contained in the memos or of the controversy itself, Bartlett said. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspaper

To: i-node who wrote (172365)	7/23/2003 11:09:10 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573214

<font color=blue> This war has gone to your head. Time to bring out the quote below so that we can all remember who was elected president in 2000. As a reminder, these well chosen words were spoken by an MP of the conservative party in Parliament. And remember these words were spoken before the war; how well the MP knew Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Wolfowitz as well as Bush..............<font color=black> ''Bush, himself the most intellectually backward American president of my political lifetime, is surrounded by advisers whose bellicosity is exceeded only by their political, military and diplomatic illiteracy,'' Kaufman wrote.