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To: KLP who wrote (107867)7/24/2003 9:33:29 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
A dissection and translation into English, of the Vice President's Remarks on War on Terror at AEI:

<It's a pleasure to be back at AEI, where I spent a considerable period of time, and among so many friends.>

I love it when an Administration person gives a speech at the AEI. They are preaching to the choir there, so they relax and let the mask drop. The veil is pulled away, all the nonsense talk about freedom and elections and peace, which they use so well, to justify doing the exact opposite.

<...victories have come exactly as President Bush said they would...>

Yes, Afghanistan is a stable, united nation, well on the road to democracy and prosperity. The Iraqis greeted us as liberators, throwing flowers on our tanks, so we have been able to reduce our occupation army to 30,000, just as planned. The UN and NATO are following our lead, and helping with lots of money and troops. The dominoes are falling, Iran and N. Korea were so ShockedAndAwed at what we did to Iraq, they have unilaterally disarmed. The Palestinians have disarmed Hamas, the Syrians have disarmed Hezbollah. Yes, everything is happening, just like the President said it would.

<Such an enemy cannot be deterred, contained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed, and that's the business at hand.>

Doesn't he realize that the Iranians and N. Koreans are listening to this? Doesn't he realize that, by saying there will be no negotiations, no compromise settlements, by saying that our unwavering goal is the total destruction and domination of all opponents, he is convincing a dozen nations of their need for nuclear weapons, as the only possible deterrent to the U.S.?

<One by one, in every corner of the world, we will hunt the terrorists down and destroy them.>

One by one, we have alienated all our potential allies. Even the Canadians think we're a Rogue State. Because we see negotiation and compromise as appeasement, we are drifting towards war with N. Korea. Because we didn't keep our 1994 Agreement with N. Korea, they will soon have nuclear weapons, and so will Iran, and there isn't a thing we can do about it now. Because of overwhelming popular opposition to our WarOnAnyoneWhoTalksBack, our "allies" in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia allow untouchable terrorist Safe Havens on their territory. We can Speak Loudly, but we've used our Stick up, and are now Stuck to the Iraqi and Afghan Tar Babies.

<Every measure was taken to avoid a war.>

Every lie we could think of, was used to frighten the American people; every other path, except war, was ridiculed and discredited.

<In Iraq, we took another essential step in the war on terror.>

In Iraq, we attacked a disarmed nation that posed no threat to the U.S., a nation that supported terrorism much less than the Saudis do. And, now that our army is fully committed, we have nothing left, for even a plausible threat against the real enemy.

<President Bush kept the American people constantly informed of the dangers we face>

Yes, the fear-mongering has been constant, and largely successful, at least in the United States.

<Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons...>

Which have mysteriously vanished, along with our credibility.

<...probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade...>

Probably? Decade? Before the war, you said "less than a year", and no "probably" about it.

<Remember, we were dealing here with a regime that had already killed thousands of people with chemical weapons.>

But please forget that we were their allies when they did that, and forget those photos where XXXXXX (deleted for national security reasons) was shaking hands and smiling with Saddam Hussain. Be very selective in your remembering.

<Critics of the liberation of Iraq must also answer another question: what would that country look like today if we had failed to act?>

Good question. Would Saddam Hussain have killed more people than we have killed, during this war? Will more Americans and Iraqis die in the ongoing guerrilla war, than if Saddam had remained in power? I don't know. But it's certain that, without the "liberation" (neo-Speak for colonization), there wouldn't be 150,000 American targets in Iraq today, dodging RPGs. And the infrastructure wouldn't have been thoroughly shattered, without the war. More Iraqis would today have food, and clean water, and health care, and housing, without the war. Maybe that's why they sure aren't acting as if they feel "liberated".

<Coalition authorities are training Iraqi police forces...>

Who ask us to get out of their towns, because their own people will kill them, if they are seen collaborating with the Americans.

<...A governing council of Iraqis...municipal councils....drafting a constitution...>

All done by Quislings hand-picked by American soldiers, and without a shred of democratic legitimacy.

<...this will prepare the way eventually for elections.>

Eventually? Eventually, your promises of freedom and democracy and elections are going to be honored? That's what the British said back in 1920: "Eventually, these savages will be ready for self-government. When they're ready to make the "right" choices, they can have a "managed" election. We'll decide when."

<We will help the Iraqi people to build a free, sovereign, and democratic nation.>

They can chose any government they want, as long as it is pro-American, anti-Islamic, and allows our army to stay there indefinitely, because we need a base from which to bully the neighborhood.

<In the 22 months since that clear September morning when America was attacked...>

...we have not quit "waving the bloody shirt", and we'll keep it up till the election, because we sure don't want to talk about our fiscal mess (BorrowAndSpend is our replacement for irresponsible Democratic TaxAndSpend), our inability to create any jobs, our sabotaging of every environmental law, or our tax cuts for the rich.



To: KLP who wrote (107867)7/25/2003 8:22:42 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 281500
 
Only those who believe in the wholesale manufacture of intelligence can deny that the Administration had an affirmative obligation to deal with Saddam, one way or another. There may have been legitimate arguments about unilateralism versus multilateralism, or containment versus invasion, but there was no question that he represented a mounting risk according to intelligence dating from '98 on........