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To: GraceZ who wrote (3226)	7/25/2003 12:06:26 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4907

Yes you'll get no disagreement that technology delivers benefits and makes possible what was before impossible. My own consulting business was a case in point - run out of my basement, it became a multi million dollar operation covering a large geographic area. Technology made the operation possible, and allowed us to operate with dramatically lower costs than our more established competition. Having said that, I've been involved in many large projects, and have witnessed countless others -- and I know that much spending in technology never manages to deliver the benefits anticipated. I like tech, know tech, enjoy it and use it all the time. Just don't trust the sales people of same (somewhat guilty as charged). These days I'm most interested in what the impact of the Open Source movement may have on the big players.

To: GraceZ who wrote (3226)	7/25/2003 12:09:21 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön	Respond to of 4907

a zillion IT guys are out of work i posted the following last night on another thread regarding this topic: I.B.M. Explores Shift of White-Collar Jobs Overseas story.news.yahoo.com. "Once those jobs leave the country, they will never come back," said Phil Friedman, chief executive of Computer Generated Solutions, a 1,200-employee computer software company. "If we continue losing these jobs, our schools will stop producing the computer engineers and programmers we need for the future." but if the Indians will do the work for 2-5K a year, why do we need all these millions of "computer engineers and programmers for the future"? we don't need textile workers, we don't need shoemakers. all we really need is soldiers and more mortgage brokers. The I.B.M. executives also warned that when workers from China come to the United States to learn to do technology jobs now being done here, some American employees might grow enraged about being forced to train the foreign workers who might ultimately take away their jobs. no chit, Sherlock! but fortunately, there are still lots of jobs at Starbucks for all the people losing their highly skilled jobs. and the Starbucks may pay more than the engineer gets in the third world. what they really need to do is get the Indians to be our CEOs for 30K a year. they would do a better job than the current bozos. Mr. Lynch warned that with the American economy in an "anemic" state, the difficulties and backlash from relocating jobs could be greater than in the past. no, it won't happen because of the real estate/refi boom. the idea is to lull people into complacency with cheap money, until the jobs have all been shipped overseas and it's too late to unionize. "It's hard for me to imagine any country just sitting back and letting jobs go offshore without raising some level of concern and investigation," Mr. Lynch said. this isn't just any country, this is America! only the rich and nonworking poor people have rights here. the middle class exists just to do all the work and pay taxes. once the jobs move overseas they will become part of the lower classes in a vast new Brazil. the rich people won't care behind their gated enclosures. their profits will be secure with the new, abundant supply of slave-wage labor overseas. "The assumption was that while lower-skilled jobs would be done elsewhere, it would allow Americans to focus on higher-skilled, higher-paying opportunities. But what do you tell the Ph.D., or professional engineer, or architect, or accountant, or computer scientist to do next? Where do you tell them to go?" go to Starbucks, they're hiring. also, here's a thread with over 500 posts on the above article: forums.fark.com

To: GraceZ who wrote (3226)	7/25/2003 1:06:01 PM
From: the_wheel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4907

HUH? I thought WalMart got where it is because they have all those real nice old folks to greet you at the front door. Thats why I shop there, their computers are crap. I know somebody who works in their accounting dept. and they use sharp pencils. Plus, I like the way they keep marking down the junk they sell. Smiley faces run around marking things down. Whenever I want to buy some junk, I go to WalMart just to say Hi at the front door. Did you know that at the current growth rate, everybody in China will be working for WalMart? I think that is what GG was getting at. Exponential growth you know. I think Heinz had a spreadsheet showing that at the projected growth rate for Crisco at the time, that all the WalMart employees and also all the atoms in the universe would soon be in Crisco's value chain, by next year if I remember. GG countered that if you network all peoples together, you get more than what you started with, you wind up with an artificial universe that is outside of normal reality, sort of like The Matrix, although I have never seen the movie. Along that line, try to think like a futurist, think about how much more productive faster computers have made the movie industry. I mean just compare an old fogey movie like "Casablanca" with a modern flick like "JackAss". In the future, innovative more faster computers will be able to morph Bogey into the dude from JackAss or maybe into that dude that used to work for Dell, that will save time and money paying prima donna actors. BTW what about outsourcing to BollyWood? Sorry if this post doesn't make sense, but I've got an older computer lacking the GG BS button and I've misplaced the WebSite that puts three words together to make it sound like you are saying something important.