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To: tejek who wrote (172604)7/25/2003 5:10:42 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572965
 
Any facilities that existed after 1991 were destroyed. Their destruction was not a secret; they were forced to destroy them by the weapons inspectors.

The inspectors themselves talked about unaccounted for parts of the WMD program. Also if you have a program at all, and you have undestroyed chemical plants (which Iraq had and still has) its not at all hard to convert them to chemical weapons making facilities and its possible (if harder) to do so without leaving much evidence. Even with 150,000 "inspectors" and with Saddam and his cronies out of power, the Baathist could be creating chemical weapons as we speak, even if not large amounts of the most effective types. Your point might apply to nuclear weapons programs but not chem weapons.

Clearly, Powell was in the same throes of paranoia

Not half as clearly as those who take Cheney's examination of Iraq's oil industry as evidence that Cheney was planning an invasion to grab Iraqi oil for the last few years.

Then why can't they find the facilities? There are none, that's why. The sucker was broke. The best he could afford was building palaces.

For half of what he spent on palaces he could easily have a chem weapons program.

Even if they could create bio WMD, they had no place to store them. They would degrade in a very short period of time.

Nonsense. A community college's biology department could store them. How well Saddam could weaponize them might be a question, but not a very big one in the long run. Its known Saddam had people with the knowledge needed to weaponize the germs.

D.Ray knows it; others on the GW Bush thread know it; may be you do too.....they don't care that Bush lied. In fact, they won't say he lied but they hint they knew he was spinning the whole Saddam is a threat thing. They don't care.....they wanted Saddam gone for a whole host of reasons.

These people believe that if the gov't is made up of Reps., it should do whatever it thinks is best and the people be damned. They think they believe in democracy but they really don't.


If this is what you really believe rather then a quick blast brought on from anger or frustration then your opinion about Republicans and/or conservatives seems rather paranoid.

If DRay or the people on the Bush thread really know that it was all just a bunch of lies then they must have access to information that is not generally available to the public.

Tim



To: tejek who wrote (172604)7/25/2003 5:27:42 PM
From: d[-_-]b  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572965
 
tejek,

re:Remember how before the war, the Republic Guard was supposed to be these fierce fighters. Its a joke.......everything related to Saddam was trumped up by the Bush administration to make him look as dangerous and evil as possible.
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The Iranians and Kuwaiti's have a different opinion. Saddam and his Generals weren't prepared for war against the USA and it's technology or more precisely our modern battlefield tactics. Remember all the reports of tactics being passed onto the Iraqi's from Russia's retired generals?

As for the spin on the threat, I grant they highlighted the nasty bits as much as possible. When sizing up a threat you have to think in worst case and try to plan for everything - impossible, but always you plan for worst case.

re:Even if they could create bio WMD, they had no place to store them. They would degrade in a very short period of time.

If you've done all the basic research and have the equipment on hand (dual use or a centrifuge in the garden) you can make the stuff pretty quickly. Store it in the missiles and go to war, Saddam's big dream was to take out the Israeli's and be the middle eastern hero for all time.

re:They don't know what democracy is.

You don't know what it is, 85% of the nation backed the war and still does. Some even claim they don't care if no WMD is ever found. You're in the minority, majority rules in a democracy.

Personally, I want more evidence and I think it's in Iraq not Washington.