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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (23356)	7/26/2003 5:16:41 AM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

karenkarealike- RE: President Bush's nominee to be secretary of the Navy, oil executive Colin McMillan, died on Thursday of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head, the New Mexico medical examiners offices said. Bush appointees are now killing themselves rather than join his coalition of dupes to take the fall. that's a wicked stretch of the imagination. mcmillan could easily have declined the invitation. credibility is important. don't put yourself in the league of the preposterous, i.e., w02 and jla. they've long lost their credibility. you haven't yet. be careful. we need your level head. :-)

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (23356)	7/26/2003 6:00:00 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Hi Karen, I see you are busy finding articles that spin all things negative about the Bush Administration..... regardless of facts or reality. As for Paul Wolfowitz discussion of his tour of Iraq, I see you found another typical negative hit piece. The fact of the matter is that if you actually check to see what Senior Bush Administration officials really said, you will find that frequently they are up front in discussing the positives & the negatives. It even falsely claims that President Bush won't "cop to anything", regarding mistakes, etc., including VP Cheney. Once a Bush Administration official speaks, there are numerous journalists & democratic politicians who love to immediately spin their words into all things negative. They ignore anything positive or deceitfully spin the positives into something negative. Heck, they don't mind falsely attributing things to them they didn't say & use that against them too (as I have proven on this thread frequently). Folks like you are all to eager to buy their outrageous lies, blatant distortions & intentional deceit as if it were irrefutable fact. Like lambs to slaughter, you just ignore all irrefutable evidence that runs contrary to your political beliefs. Your political leaders & liberal media have no problems leading you there with their lies, distortions & intentional deceit. And for every time I expose the lies & deceit, you find 4 or 5 new hit pieces that are nothing but BS & you cling to it. Meanwhile you never once questioning how it is that your own political leaders & your favorite media outlets are repeatedly exposed for the repugnant actions they have taken, all to score political points while hurting America, the Presidency & global opinion of this once great country. That's the amazing part to me.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (23356)	7/26/2003 6:32:23 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 89467

Karen, attached is a link to the transcript of Paul Wolfowitz speech on his tour of Iraq. Since you've already seen so much negative media spin on it, perhaps you might want to read precisely what he said & compare it to what ended up being reported. Then I challenge you to read VP Cheney's recent speech & perhaps one or two major speeches by President Bush on Iraq, ect., like the SOTUA with those 16 infamous words & his speech on Iraq from last Oct. I bet if you really read them objectively, you would see how your favorite politicians & liberal media outlets actually did openly lie, distort, attribute things to them that they never said & also intentionally spin all things negative, albeit in a deceptively crafty way. The hard part is actually reading what these people actually said & do it with an open mind. Transcript of Paul Wolfowitz- Report on Iraq Trip -7-23-03 Message 19140654 Message 19140686 Text: Cheney Speaks on Terrorism washingtonpost.com President Delivers State of the Union Address whitehouse.gov President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat whitehouse.gov