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To: Coz who wrote (3080)7/28/2003 6:07:03 PM
From: Bridge Player  Respond to of 20773
 
Fortunately.



To: Coz who wrote (3080)7/28/2003 10:45:39 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20773
 
Coz,

Re: . People need something to hope for to go vote. I'm not sure that dislike or distrust is enough of a motivation for the public to get out to the polls amd make a change happen.

Franklin Roosevelt understood politics pretty well. His view is diametrically opposed to yours. He said: "There is no group in America that can withstand the force of an aroused public opinion."

Bush got marked up by 24% of the registered voters in 2000 largely because the Right was so angry about the moral turpitude of Bill Clinton.

Now that the tables have turned, and the Right is beginning to sense that it is being betrayed by Bush, we'll see a different election.

Today, it is the Left that is aroused.



To: Coz who wrote (3080)7/29/2003 3:34:24 AM
From: Dale Baker  Respond to of 20773
 
I'm not sure that dislike or distrust is enough of a motivation for the public to get out to the polls amd make a change happen

It worked for Reagan in 1980. He whipped a self-righteous incumbent president who had lost his grip on the US position in the world and the bumbling economy at home. He said very flatly that the incumbent party could not be trusted with America's safety or prosperity.

As the Dems get bolder I would expect one to end up with a similar theme, putting the onus squarely on the quality (and results) of Shrub's decisionmaking when it counts.

Regardless where one stood on Reagan, the political strategy worked, blending negative themes with hope for the future. Don't kid yourself that most political campaigns aren't out there polling to determine how they can make the voters dislike and distrust their opponent. It's a huge industry now. Why? Because it works.



To: Coz who wrote (3080)7/31/2003 2:23:01 AM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 20773
 
If there is one thing Clinton has mastered, it is sacrificing principle for the sake of political gain. That was the essence of his presidency, sacrificing Democratic Party virtues in favor of politically expedient actions.

Here is a more vivid example of what the "New Democrats" are all about:

<<< Michael Steinhardt, former Democratic Leadership Council stalwart and part-owner of The New Republic, gave $2,000 to Bush-Cheney '04 Inc. on June 20, 2003. >>>

prospect.org

Tom