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To: NickSE who wrote (109388)	8/1/2003 11:57:18 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>Left here has no answers for important issues like that.<< No sense in providing answers to those who refuse to accept them as alternatives anyway, and are subjected to accusations of traitors all and Anti –American positioning anytime they dared to speak out. >> They are too busy telling us how much they hate Bush,<< Hate is a strong and inaccurate discription.Those you profile as " the left ", merely believe he has lied to the American people and the Rest Of The Free World in engaging in an illegitimate and needless war for reasons well beyond what was implied. >>that we've destroyed the UN << These activities of recent past were an attempt to circumvent the legitimacy of the UN,which is despised by the Noecons in their blind following of the Zionist and PNAC agenda. >>now the world hates us now (boo hoo),<< Again..inacurate.The World does not appreciate being regarded as " irrelevant " when the American Administration Du jour..AKA..Leaders Of The Free World, goes on a military rampage of adventurism in the name of protecting that very Free World.Everything I read says most people are informed enough to distinguish between America -- The country,, and America -- the country currently run by a bumbling idiot.It seems only the neocons refuse ( or more likely can’t ) understand the difference. >> how well our puppet regime is doing in Iraq in addition to it being Vietnam 2,<< Hawk says there is no comparison,but avoids the reality of the similarities when engaged in a guerrilla war - in another country - far from America's shores.You don't need a jungle nor external sponsorship to find yourself in unfriendly territory where you can't determine who is friend and who is enemy.A very bad situation indeed. >> and we did it for the oil and lied about WMDs to boot.....did I miss anything?<< Lots, but that should be enough to get Bush's sorry ass out of the position that he neither deserved nor legitimately won in a tradition electoral process come 2004. Get used to the idea of losing next year. KC

To: NickSE who wrote (109388)	8/2/2003 11:51:19 AM
From: NickSE	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

A unilateral French military operation without UN approval? France says sorry for rescue bid telegraph.co.uk France's foreign minister has apologised to Brazil over a botched mission to the Amazon to bring home a French hostage. Last month Dominique de Villepin secretly ordered a military transport plane to the Brazilian Amazon after receiving a tip that a friend, the Franco-Colombian Green politician Ingrid Betancourt, held for 17 months by Colombian rebels near the border, would be freed. The mission ended in fiasco and the rebel Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) denied it intended to free her. Brazil and Colombia protested that they were not informed of the operation. Tension between France and Brazil rose on Thursday when Samuel Pinheiro Guimaraes, the Brazilian deputy foreign minister, said M de Villepin had given information which proved false. One deputy demanded the expulsion of French diplomats, saying they "would do better not to treat us like one of their African colonies". In a written statement, M de Villepin offered his apology to his Brazilian counterpart, Celso Amorim, who accepted.