To: rrufff who wrote (1729 ) 8/5/2003 1:06:05 AM From: MSI Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039 I would start with less secrecy and more investigation Good start. Something like 80% of the public still believe the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, which means a vast distrust of any gov't that doesn't come clean with all the facts, immediately. You're right about apathetic voters. They play into the hands of anyone who lobbies gov't for a living. The more apathetic, the better, which is why gov't devolves into ever greater citizen apathy. Welfare, shooting presidents in the head, terrorism, confusing and contradictory statements, overwhelming secrecy, all make for a 'voter' who just wants to go lie down after work, and maybe to the golf course on weekends, and forget all this political nonsense. The 911 mysteries make enough people made that they won't go on much longer, also due to the wider bandwidth of web communications. Unlike the JFK debacle, much of the evidence is already digitized and in the public domain, and only needs human corroboration by any of a few hundred individuals who may know of criminal actvitiy and/or cover-up. If it was as advertized, bin Laden and co., there will be released people and statements of where and how that occured. If it was someone else orchestrating the process, with the amount of anger widespread among the populace, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more come forward in a way that is hard to suppress. As soon as they become public enough, like Ambassador Wilson, they become protected and can't be suppressed. The flip side of that -- Al Martin said over the weekend that he believed even with all the evidence of conspiracy and Bush involvement in 911 and many other similar actions now occuring, that Bush & co. were so powerful now it didn't matter ... That's a bit over the top <gg>